My thoughts on the Friedman BE100

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  1. Protestheriphery

    Protestheriphery SS.org Regular

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    I've always been curious about the JCM 800. At this point, however, Im finished with going down the rabbit hole with amps that need to be cranked to be usable. Maybe if had an attenuator, Id be down.
     
  2. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    I probably misread something somewheres then. Coulda swore I read they transitioned away from handwiring years ago.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    They transitioned away from turret boards years ago.
     
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    believe the Runt series is not hand wired to save cost.

    Nah they are just not point to point.
     
  5. Protestheriphery

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    What Im really curious to do is get a Two Notes Torpedo, and see how/if things change that way. At least I'll be able to open up the power section more.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    No Friedman is point to point, nor are any current production amps that I am aware of. Point to point means no circuit boards / turret boards / etc just the components chained together. Point to point stuff is literally insane :lol:
     
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    Butterslax is the best Marshall I've ever played, and it was sitting right beside an original 60s plexi.
     
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    c7spheres GuitArtist

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    I think the issue fighting you most is probably this. It's hard to get what you want from a powerful amp at low volumes. It's just not what it's for. Sometimes amps sound good also at low volumes, but that's like a bonus and I wouldn't say something to be expected. A reactive load is a good investment and will stay with you for many amps to come. Then you can get everything set where it needs to be and have the volume you want to through studio monitors or headphones.
     
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    Carr is point to point. Dunno about anyone else.
     
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    I feel like this matters less then people think. Once you have the directions and you've done it once...it takes very little labor to actually make an amp.

    almost all the more modern boutique amps are all pcb and "handwired" which really just means the boards are populated and soldered by hand.

    almost every fender was handwired by unskilled labor.

    I could do a slo type amp in 4-6 hours if I don't get distracted in the middle.
     
  11. Protestheriphery

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    I feel that's the next step. It leads to a different topic: Cant record my favorite amps and capture my sound, so I have to rely on software sims. Theoretically, if I get one of those boxes, I can finally achieve that. Especially at any hour.
     
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  12. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    You're a lot faster than I am :lol:

    I think the big difference is when you compare it to something that is wave soldered with all the pots and sockets on the PC board :2c:
     
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    You could be thinking of my gen. 1 that I sold to New Religion (Dave). Those amps had the red colored full turret board from Metropolous.

    Amazing build quality. Highest quality parts...

    Sold the amp, pretty much for all the reasons mentioned already in this thread. Just too refined like a perfect recorded Marshall. By the time I sold it, I was using dirt boxes into the clean channel...what a waste. I liked the Kemper profile I made of the dirt channel more than the real amp itself. Lots more definition.

    NOT bashing...Dave is awesome, and builds a HAMMERING amp. It's just if you've grown up playing traditional Marshall amps, you'll end up missing all the imperfections you always complained about in them with a BE100...:lol:

    Uh-oh..."You don't know whatchya got...til it's gone."
     
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    So in other words, the brown eye 100 sounds like ass.

    What did you expect?
     
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    Absolutely not...like I said, it's a HAMMERING amp.
    Until you stand in front of one and play, it's hard to convey.

    It's hasn't become the studio and backline standard everywhere b/c it resembles "ass". Quite the opposite.

    It's just gotta be YOUR flavor of Marshall world.
    The snubber caps shave off more highs within the circuit making the gain smoother, and the amp less bright overall. It takes away from that big brash "kerrang" of old Marshall amps...the thing certain at home lower volume players complains about. They end up clipping out the bright cap at the input or mod the amp further. Already taken care of in the Friedman line.
     
  16. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    I mean I've just tried the Friedman in modelers, but it tends to be my favorite model. I tend to use a heavy as shit low pass filter in my tone anyway so it does most of the work for me. :lol:

    It's just got this attack I dig. It's saggy, but the sharp attack counters it as well, so palm mutes feel satisfying and chords feel huge. It's an acquired taste.

    If all you want from your tone is treble above the 7-8khz range, then yeah, it's an ass-sounding, overpriced practice amp. :lol:
     
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    USMarine75 Stairway to Heaven blows Contributor

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    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
     
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    KnightBrolaire Thy Fart is Murder

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    You might be interested in the JJ or Butterslax then. They're supposedly much more aggressive feeling amps from friedman. Bill from Mastodon gets some absolutely crushing tones out of the Butterslax.
     
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    Did the BE100 become "the" backline standard? Do tell.
     
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    You missed the joke.

    Brown Eye is slang for "butthole"
     

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