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Oh man, me and my parents tried to watch Six Underground - absolute dogshit. Just the first maybe 10-15 mins with the opening heist was so lukewarm that we got to the funeral scene and turned it off. We would have rather flipped channels trying to find something to watch then keep up with that meh-fest.

I blame Blade Trinity for Ryan Reynolds thinking he just had to be Ryan Reynolds in all his movies for the next 20+ years, instead of actually, ya know, ACTING
I mean, if you accidently through back four or five whiskeys during that 10-15 minute opening heist, your ability to sit through the rest improves markedly. :drew:

But yeah, post-Deadpool Ryan Reynolds is awesome and all, but he's now done that in, sticking to just movies I've seen and that's not a large number, Six Underground, Red Notice, The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard... I kinda want to see the Adam Project, but I have a feeling it's going to be more Ryan-Reynolds-Spends-All-Movie-Breaking-the-Fourth-Wall melee.
 

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I mean, if you accidently through back four or five whiskeys during that 10-15 minute opening heist, your ability to sit through the rest improves markedly. :drew:

But yeah, post-Deadpool Ryan Reynolds is awesome and all, but he's now done that in, sticking to just movies I've seen and that's not a large number, Six Underground, Red Notice, The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard... I kinda want to see the Adam Project, but I have a feeling it's going to be more Ryan-Reynolds-Spends-All-Movie-Breaking-the-Fourth-Wall melee.
Nah there's no real 4th wall stuff in Adam Project. It is very much him firing off quips and laconic phrases left and right though. It was a fun movie, kind of gives off Last Starfighter vibes
 

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i sat through all the michael bay transformers and tmnt movies. I'll take those over the hobbit trilogy anyday, because at least they're all dumb fun. The hobbit trilogy isn't even fun to watch. How they managed to make LOTR work and fuck up the Hobbit is still mindboggling.
Having been a Transformers fan since 1984, and making the mistake of paying attention to Bay's comments on set and during shoots, I got tired of feeling insulted after the third Transformers film. I didn't even bother with the TMNT. I have no idea where he ended up, but I stopped even paying attention to production when he first floated the idea of making them aliens instead of mutants during the development cycle.

Here's what kills me. I watched the first TF Bayverse film in the theater ten times and several times on DVD.

The second I watched three times in the theater, and didn't bother buying the DVD nor ever watching it again.

The third, I went to the theater opening night with a friend, left feeling utterly insulted and fucked over. The wife convinced me to take her to see it that weekend, and about halfway through my brain just pulled a Peter Griffin, and went, "DUN!" Never had a desire to ever watch even the first film again.

I did watch the Bumblebee movie once, just because I knew he wasn't involved. It wasn't insulting, but knowing the production issues and the fact Paramount kept dicking around with the actual director and going back and forth on whether he needed to tie it to the Bayverse, it ended up as lackluster as I feared it would. Too bad. Knight's capable of one hell of a story visually. Look at his animated films for proof of that.

And that's more time than the entire Transformers film franchise deserves from me. Bleh.

Time to pop in the animated 1987 film and cleanse the palate.

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Some of us like Ryan Reynolds being Ryan Reynolds, but for a more manic Ryan Reynolds, try out The Voices. That's got some good shit in it, and he actually doesn't do the usual quip, quip, fourthwall quip, quip thing.

That said, if you really were hoping for a new Deadpool movie, just watch Free Guy. It's not exactly Deadpool, but it's about as fourth wally / sarcastic as you can get, just with a little bit more happiness shoved in there.

"Did that look cool? It felt like it looked cool!"
 
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Having been a Transformers fan since 1984, and making the mistake of paying attention to Bay's comments on set and during shoots, I got tired of feeling insulted after the third Transformers film. I didn't even bother with the TMNT. I have no idea where he ended up, but I stopped even paying attention to production when he first floated the idea of making them aliens instead of mutants during the development cycle.

Here's what kills me. I watched the first TF Bayverse film in the theater ten times and several times on DVD.

The second I watched three times in the theater, and didn't bother buying the DVD nor ever watching it again.

The third, I went to the theater opening night with a friend, left feeling utterly insulted and fucked over. The wife convinced me to take her to see it that weekend, and about halfway through my brain just pulled a Peter Griffin, and went, "DUN!" Never had a desire to ever watch even the first film again.

I did watch the Bumblebee movie once, just because I knew he wasn't involved. It wasn't insulting, but knowing the production issues and the fact Paramount kept dicking around with the actual director and going back and forth on whether he needed to tie it to the Bayverse, it ended up as lackluster as I feared it would. Too bad. Knight's capable of one hell of a story visually. Look at his animated films for proof of that.

And that's more time than the entire Transformers film franchise deserves from me. Bleh.

Time to pop in the animated 1987 film and cleanse the palate.

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Some of us like Ryan Reynolds being Ryan Reynolds, but for a more manic Ryan Reynolds, try out The Voices. That's got some good shit in it, and he actually doesn't do the usual quip, quip, fourthwall quip, quip thing.

That said, if you really were hoping for a new Deadpool movie, just watch Free Guy. It's not exactly Deadpool, but it's about as fourth wally / sarcastic as you can get, just with a little bit more happiness shoved in there.

"Did that look cool? It felt like it looked cool!"

I hated Transformers at the second movie. TMNT was fun. They got left as mutants. The second one was bad, but maybe bad in an acceptable way? The version of Casey Jones, while acted decently, was written as if they didn't know who the character was at all other than a brawler who uses sports equipment. Disappointing. They don't have the edge the comics had.

As for Bumblebee. I really liked that one. It felt like the same bumblebee from the 80's cartoons. Especially his very strong connection to humanity.
 

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I hated Transformers at the second movie. TMNT was fun. They got left as mutants. The second one was bad, but maybe bad in an acceptable way? The version of Casey Jones, while acted decently, was written as if they didn't know who the character was at all other than a brawler who uses sports equipment. Disappointing. They don't have the edge the comics had.

As for Bumblebee. I really liked that one. It felt like the same bumblebee from the 80's cartoons. Especially his very strong connection to humanity.
Bumblebee was OK, but it was very teen melodrama standard, which is not at all what I'd expect from a movie made by Travis Knight. Some of the teen drama bullshit was just gag inducingly cliche.

Still, a hundred times better than the last Bay film I saw. I didn't walk away from it feeling like I'd lost brain cells and maturity, like I did over the leg humping and slow-mo shots of girls asses while robots are fighting in the background with Bay.
 

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Bumblebee was OK, but it was very teen melodrama standard, which is not at all what I'd expect from a movie made by Travis Knight. Some of the teen drama bullshit was just gag inducingly cliche.

Still, a hundred times better than the last Bay film I saw. I didn't walk away from it feeling like I'd lost brain cells and maturity, like I did over the leg humping and slow-mo shots of girls asses while robots are fighting in the background with Bay.

I saw it as a kid with first car sort of thing... Teen melodrama doesn't bother me all that much. Its the same as adult melodrama with less responsibility attached and less potential consequences. But I'm also the parent of two kids. So drama is daily life. I'm probably desensitized to it.
 

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As much as I love the Lord of the Rings movies, extended versions that is, there's a lot they did wrong. Firstly, it gave a lot of people the completely wrong impression about Sauron among other things. Sauron didn't die from some lucky strike from Isildur. His physical body was only weakened due to battling the legit top tier examples of the Elven and Numenorean race, so he was basically fighting two warriors of magnificent ability and strength. They both died fighting him and Isildur pretty well looted a body that was either dead or very close to it. Also, Sauron isn't some big fucking eye in the sky, either. He's a terrifying entity and he's damn close to victory until he realizes that someone has the ring in his own backyard. At that point, his entire army loses its will. I really feel like the movies didn't impress just how dangerous Sauron was even without the ring, because he was about to win the fight without it.

Secondly, "why didn't Elrond just kick Isildur into Sammath Naur aka "Cracks of Doom?" Well that's because that scene never happened in the books. There WAS a council meeting that Isildur and Elrond DID attend that did NOT happen in Sammath Naur but given that a.) The ring would be no better in Elrond's hands than anyone else's and absolutely had the power to corrupt him b.) Both the armies of men and elves had been drastically weakened due to the how long was it? Seven year siege at Barad-Dur AFTER the Battle of Dagorlad that eventually led to Sauron's downfall? An assassination attempt would have resulted in another war, especially one against someone like Isildur c.) Ignoring everything else, it just doesn't seem to be Elrond's nature.

Now all that said, I still love the movies. I don't particularly dislike the Hobbit movies even if it was largely depending upon appendices and lesser known plot points such as Saruman beginning to delve into ring-lore and such which lends to his suspicious nature beginning to take hold, and other things that weren't in the Hobbit book itself (a few things happened alongside The Hobbit in that time period, so I can't give it too much shit for bloating). Hell, by that point, you could say that secretly, Saruman had already started to fall from what he was supposed to do.

Oh yeah, speaking of Saruman, they fucked that up about him too. The goal of Saruman was NEVER to join with Sauron, at least on an endgame level. Saruman wanted the Ring of Power for himself. As a matter of fact, the Witch-King of Angmar, I imagine was quite pissed when Saruman refused to tell him where the Halflings were. WK came across Grima and well... the rest is history.

Carry on.
 

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I watched The Harder They Fall. Overall I thought it was really good, I really enjoyed the soundtrack, and the actors were great in roles that they were cast in.

I felt like this scene where Cuffee gets outed as AFAB and forced to wear a dress for the bank robbery could've been handled little bit better, especially with the whole "wHaT's yOuR rEaL nAmE" bit. I understand that it's likely accurate how the characters would've acted, but it felt out of character for Cuffee not to have anything to say about it considering he spends the rest of the movie being tougher than nails and taking 0% of anyone's shit, and left the problematic aspects feeling a bit unaddressed.

That said, I really enjoyed the movie overall, and I specifically thought that Cuffee was a really great character who I found consistently more interesting than the two main characters and would love to have seen developed more.
 

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Scarface

Believe it or not, I had never seen it before. Didn't really like it apart from all the parts and songs that clearly inspired GTA Vice City. Also, I have to mention how terrible the sound design was. Hardly could understand half the lines that Al Pacino mumbled.
 

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Scarface

Believe it or not, I had never seen it before. Didn't really like it apart from all the parts and songs that clearly inspired GTA Vice City.

Yeah, its overrated in a lot of ways including much of (but not all) the acting. The overall feel is definitely that weird kind of cheap De Palma thing esp with the editing.
 

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I absolutely love a lot of DePalma movies (Blow Out, Carrie, Dressed to Kill, Femme Fatale, Sisters, Obsession, The Fury) but find Scarface totally uninteresting. It's too "normal" and the crazy stuff in it isn't crazy in a way that appeals to me. I think the same thing about his other "mainstream" movies like Mission Impossible and The Untouchables.
 

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I absolutely love a lot of DePalma movies (Blow Out, Carrie, Dressed to Kill, Femme Fatale, Sisters, Obsession, The Fury) but find Scarface totally uninteresting. It's too "normal" and the crazy stuff in it isn't crazy in a way that appeals to me. I think the same thing about his other "mainstream" movies like Mission Impossible and The Untouchables.
No mention of Body Double? Also, check out the De Palma documentary where he just sits down and discusses his career evolution alongside selected scenes from his films. Was very entertaining as a long time De Palma fan.
 

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I don't remember much about Body Double other than the brief appearance by Gozer the Gozarian, and the fact the lead was that Bill Maher lookalike from Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I think I remember a murder scene with a power drill coming through the ceiling, too! I should rewatch it sometime. I really can't remember if I liked it or not.
 

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I don't remember much about Body Double other than the brief appearance by Gozer the Gozarian, and the fact the lead was that Bill Maher lookalike from Nightmare on Elm Street 3. I think I remember a murder scene with a power drill coming through the ceiling, too! I should rewatch it sometime. I really can't remember if I liked it or not.
Body Double is one of his best movies imo. Just a good solid thriller with some funny bits like melanie griffith accusing the main character of being a necrophiliac, or when the killer's drill gets unplugged from the wall right before he murders someone
 

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Body Double is one of his best movies imo. Just a good solid thriller with some funny bits like melanie griffith accusing the main character of being a necrophiliac, or when the killer's drill gets unplugged from the wall right before he murders someone
I got curious and searched this thread, only to find I posted a brief review of it when I watched it in 2013 in this very thread. This forum has been around a long time!

"Body Double - Amusing thriller, clearly a huge (acknowledged) ripoff of Vertigo and Rear Window but definitely fun to watch. It's not nearly as good as the director's own "Blow Out" or "Dressed to Kill" but it's amusing. It's basically Vertigo but with a claustrophobic actor instead of a detective that's scared of heights. Melanie Griffith plays a porno star and is pretty funny and likable in the role, I like that this incredibly explicit movie paved the way for her getting hired for "Working Girl." The star is the Bill Maher-looking dweeb from Nightmare on Elm Street 3 and there were a lot of scenes where I wanted to reach through the screen and smack him, but I guess that was the point. There are some amazing Hitchcockian suspense scenes which are incredibly manipulative in the best way possible, especially a threatening scene with a giant power drill. The whole movie is on youtube for some reason. [obviously link is broken now]

I also enjoyed recognizing a store clerk as being Gozer from Ghostbusters. What a frightening lady! 7/10"

Yeah, I need to rewatch this. I fortunately bought the blu-ray during the brief window it was available back in 2013.

I was having a De Palma discussion on some other film board, since Femme Fatale just came out on blu-ray this week. A bunch of people recommended Casualties of War, that's the only one of his non-disastrous studio movies I haven't seen. Guess I should check it out. I don't tend to like his mainstream movies much, though. Carlito's Way also left me pretty cold, same as Scarface and Untouchables.

I was in a used vinyl store yesterday and saw Phantom of the Paradise's soundtrack, got excited, and then saw it was 75 dollars. :( I go through phases where that's my favorite of his movies. Regardless of if it's my favorite of his, it totally rules. It deserves a way bigger reputation than it has. The music and filmmaking is SO much better than the infinitely more famous Rocky Horror Picture Show.

That place's selection was insane, they had probably a thousand soundtracks on vinyl. Most of the interesting ones were jacked up, though.
 

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