Mick Gordon makes lengthy statement regarding working with id Software on DOOM Eternal

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This is a hell of a long read (page says about 58 minutes, which is about right) and provides some insight into Mick's experience crunching on Doom Eternal's soundtrack and the hell he's been through in the interim.



I remember seeing Marty Stratton's reddit post about this back in May 2020 and had kind of forgotten about the whole ordeal since then, but reading this is pretty stomach churning to see how poorly he was treated.

tl;dr:

Summary of Facts

DOOM Eternal

I haven’t been paid for over half of DOOM Eternal’s music: The game includes more than double the music I was contracted to produce. Rejects, mockups, demos, many of which were never meant for public release. I created this music as part of the development process and shared it with id Software in good faith. But id Software used the music in the game, marketing and soundtrack and still refuses to pay me for it.

The DOOM Eternal OST was a mess

It was announced, with my name attached, and made available for pre-order before I was contracted to produce it. Despite my alarm and constant appeals Marty refused to do anything about the situation, leading to a nine-month delay before I could start work.
The deadline was April 16 (29 days later) and the contract stipulated id Software had complete creative control and would aquire access to all my source material.
Marty withheld crucial details from me until 13 days before my deadline, such as:
  • Potential legal trouble they faced for taking pre-orders before it was under contract.
  • Details about their internally-produced OST: an alternative edited from my in-game score, which they’d worked on for at least six months without my knowledge or involvement.
I didn’t approve the release: In the days leading up to April 16, Marty cut me out of the process and decided to release their alternative version instead, reducing my direct contributions to filler. Both he, and id Software’s Lead Audio Designer, Chad Mossholder, didn’t allow me to hear the final album and didn’t seek my approval; they weren’t contractually required to do so.

OST release

Their poor-quality release immediately drew criticism, and a worried Marty personally asked me for assistance in addressing the situation. I made myself entirely available to Marty and committed to satisfying disappointed customers with a better OST. Marty made it clear he wanted me involved, saying he wanted a positive outcome, had no ill intentions and wanted to resolve the issue professionally.
  • He offered to draft a joint statement addressing the situation and announcing plans to move forward.
  • He requested I hold off on making further public comments until we could address the public together.
Marty told me to expect the draft within hours, but it never arrived.

Reddit

Instead, days later, he published a 2500+ word “open letter” on a fan-run Reddit page that singled me out as the sole cause behind the botched OST. The post attracted thousands of comments and news articles and severely damaged my personal and professional reputation. Worst of all, he did it behind my back whilst leading me on with a bullshit story about working together on a professional solution to the problem.
His statement was full of lies, disinformation and innuendo, and when challenged, his company offered me a six-figure sum to shut up about it. When I tried, time and time again, amid a torrent of abuse, harassment and threats, to resolve the matter more amicably, he constantly refused, worried how addressing the Reddit post would damage his own reputation instead.
But as far as I’m concerned, truth and honesty are more important: Marty’s words damaged my character and attacked my reputation. I have afforded him ample opportunity to address this issue, but his refusal to do so has left me with no option other than to issue this statement.

In issuing this statement, I’m exercising my right to defend myself.

 

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How to completely destroy a working relationship with a musician: a guide.
 

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Yikes, what a mess. I didn't know there was a bunch of drama and bullshit attached to this.
 

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This article has been making the rounds at work, and I've been fighting back the snark. Makes me really sad for id, not just because I've always been a fan of Doom in all it's incarnations, but also because they were a huge part of the history of the medium.
 

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This article has been making the rounds at work, and I've been fighting back the snark. Makes me really sad for id, not just because I've always been a fan of Doom in all it's incarnations, but also because they were a huge part of the history of the medium.

Why you sad for id? They're the ones who fucked him over.
 

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Why you sad for id?
"Sad for" in the sense of they became the villain after all this time of being the hero, what with DOOM being the origin of the FPS and all
MFB's got it.

I also have a hunch that it's less id, and more the Bethesda/Zenimax influence, but I could be wrong. Game companies tend to have a lot of turnover so the id of today is clearly not the id of yesteryear.
 

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MFB's got it.

I also have a hunch that it's less id, and more the Bethesda/Zenimax influence, but I could be wrong. Game companies tend to have a lot of turnover so the id of today is clearly not the id of yesteryear.
to be fair, Marty Stratton is a name i remember hearing around Doom 3 times. he's been with id since '97
 

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MFB's got it.

I also have a hunch that it's less id, and more the Bethesda/Zenimax influence, but I could be wrong. Game companies tend to have a lot of turnover so the id of today is clearly not the id of yesteryear.

Ah gotcha... yeah, I get it. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.
 

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Definitely co-written with legal counsel I'm sure. I can't recall, was this pre-microsoft acquisition of Bethesda?
 

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Definitely co-written with legal counsel I'm sure. I can't recall, was this pre-microsoft acquisition of Bethesda?

I think they put out DOOM 2016 before the acquisition, but Eternal is for sure put out under it. I want to say it was 2018 or so that that deal happened.
 

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As I understand it, it's all post-Bethesda, but the MS acquisition happens in the middle of this story. If I had to guess, MS had little influence on this case. I can only guess though.
 

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Definitely co-written with legal counsel I'm sure. I can't recall, was this pre-microsoft acquisition of Bethesda?

I think they put out DOOM 2016 before the acquisition, but Eternal is for sure put out under it. I want to say it was 2018 or so that that deal happened.

As I understand it, it's all post-Bethesda, but the MS acquisition happens in the middle of this story. If I had to guess, MS had little influence on this case. I can only guess though.
Bethesda was acquired by Microsoft in March of 2021, so this is all pre MS.

i do wonder if bethesda offering Mick a six-figure gag order was because they didn't want issues like this out in the open while they were courting MS to be bought out, but that's obviously just a guess
 

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Welp, by far the main reason I bought both Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal was the music, so guess I won't be buying a potential Doom 3 unless they reconcile with him!
 

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i do wonder if bethesda offering Mick a six-figure gag order was because they didn't want issues like this out in the open while they were courting MS to be bought out, but that's obviously just a guess
While we're all speculating, I've heard people describe Zenimax as being famously litigious (to the point I've met people who were afraid of working with them), so I wouldn't be shocked if that's just their default mode of conflict resolution.
 

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Whoa, what an absolute mess. I wish I had the time to read through his letter, but god damn. Been a fan and actually found out of Mick and his work when this released. Wishing him lots of GREAT projects down the road, this man knows how to create the appropriate atmosphere with music.

A true Hans Zimmer of Metal :metal:

This is why I don't spend my hard earned 70$ on AAA titles anymore. Broken promises, unfinished releases, underpaid (if paid at all) developers and cases like this.
 

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This is why I don't spend my hard earned 70$ on AAA titles anymore.
Keep in mind a AAA title takes hundred of people to make, even if you exclude the people who contribute to things like the engine and middleware and contractors for all kinds of things that don't get credited, etc. On top of that, any organization of that size is going to have a couple of dickheads in the mix - and in the odd unfortunate case, they land in places of authority.
 


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