Mesa Can for Roadster: Compact Vs Rectifier

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  1. Jan

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    7 years ago I took a break from playing and made the mistake of selling my 4x12 Mesa cab. Now I'm slowly getting back and need a cab for my Roadster. I've decided I want a 2x12 Mesa horizontal cab, but cannot decide between the Rectifier (marginally bigger and more expensive) or the Compact one, originally designed specifically for Roadster, which doesn't necessarily mean that it will sound better to my ears. I play European-style metal, nothing technical, sort of a mix of mid-tempo melodeath with doom, perhaps some heavy metal thrown in. Ideally I'd like the sound to be as defined and punchy as on my Recto 4x12 but with tighter bass and some more mids while retaining the crystal clear top end my old cab had. Unfortunately, I cannot try out these cabs before buying. Any thoughts?
     
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    Get the regular size then.
     
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    Regular size all the way :yesway:

    I've owned a couple of 2x12 Recto cabs and compared them to my Traditional 4x12s with a few different amps. Tighter bass and more mids is pretty much exactly how I'd describe the difference between the 2x12 and 4x12 with the same OEM V30 speakers. You can get the 2x12 to sound pretty close to a 4x12 by dialing your presence and mids a hair lower than normal, though you'll never really get quite the exact same bottom end extension and thump :2c:
     
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    But should I get the Compact (Roadster) or the Rectifier one?
     
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    Why not the compact? :)
     
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    Nevermind. I see that you're talking about the Compact Rectifier 2X12. I own one of those & I didn't realize that it was designed for the Roadster.

    If I were you I would get the full size 2X12. I don't like the way any of my amps sound on the Compact. It has too much midrange & just sounds weak. I recently bought a Traditional Rectifier 4X12 & it absolutely slays the Compact. I don't even use it anymore. Wanna buy it? lol! :D
     
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    Because you had a 412 and want most of those qualities back.
     
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    Another vote for a 4x12.

    I love my Recto 2x12 at home and lower volume, but my 4x12 is much better at band volume.
     
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    My 4X12 is much better at any volume! :hbang:
     
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    I'm not sure when I will be playing in a live band again, this is mainly to play in my house to get to use the Roadster again and for studio use. And if I'm in a live band again,. it should cope too, but I'm too old for super loud rehearsals anyway... :)
     
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    This is my take too.

    But i dont want to lug a 412, so I dont :lol:
     
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    What head are you using? So tonally, the "regular" 2x12 more midrangey/tighter than the 4x12 Standard, but less so than the 2x12 compact? Is that correct?
     
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    I'm using a Revv D20, Mesa 3 Channel Triple Recto & PRS Archon. I haven't played through a "regular" Rectifier 2X12 so I can't comment on it's tone. Comparing my Compact 2X12 to my Traditional 4X12 the Compact has more midrange, less bass & less depth. It's a little tighter, but it sounds much smaller (obviously, because it is much smaller) lol!
     
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    Have a Roadster and a regular Recto 2x12 cabinet. Totally happy with that combo, and honestly feel like the compact may be a bit too lacking in low end to be sufficient
     
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    I've had the Recto 2x12 at one point and agree with everything said about it, but don't expect it to keep up with a metal drummer at jam volumes. For that you need the 4x12 with the 2x12 on top/bottom of it. You're just gonna have to get both. Might as well complete the collection with the 1x12 too now that you're at it : )
     
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    4x12 is definitely better for all volumes. I agree. My Recto was my first 2x12, and as I said I do really like it, but if I could go back and get another 4x12 instead I would.

    Though they do sound awesome together with the 2x12's tighter, more middy tone mixed with the 4x12's thicker, punchier thump.
     
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    Haha, too old for all that volume. In-ear monitoring is the answer, not more volume. If I do go back to live rehearsals, it'll be all plexi glass, in ears, and and as little volume as possible.
     
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    Honestly, if you're doing that, it's TOTALLY worth investing in a Radial JDX. Total isolation, no plexiglass needed, and the tone is honestly pretty good. A budget-friendly version is honestly the Behringer GI100. While the tone on that one isn't great, it's absolutely useable for an IEM setting.
     
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