Maxed out saddles

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  1. buck fever

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    Hey team,

    I just bought a used Kiese Scb7 multiscale. I unboxed it and noticed the action is a little tiny bit high, and then noticed that the saddles are all maxed out. Should I be concerned that there’s an underlying issue? The action isn’t super high, but on the high side of normal.
     

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    I'd lower them down to your preference and see if maybe the neck needs some adjusting. As far as intonation goes, I've had to go as far as removing the spring to pull the saddle back far enough to intonate correctly. Up to you if you want to do that but I do recommend getting it to a level you like before judging whether or not theres a problem
     
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    Some people just like higher action. Definitely looks like you could lower them some, unless the nut got cut too deep, or something.

    I see that's an "old school" SCB with their old FT6 fixed bridge, rather than the Hipshot fixed they use now. Nothing wrong with it, I had just forgotten that they came with that bridge for a while.
     
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    It totally is old school! Actually, as far as I was told, it’s the first one produced. Who knows.
     
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    seems the guitar had slightly wrong neck angle when it got build

    if everything works, then theres no problem. If you feel your action is too high, remember to check the neck relief first before messing with the saddles height
     
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    until you make your own setup to the guitar, there's no way to tell if there's any problem with it...
     
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    high saddles high action... don't see a problem

    high saddles low action ... that's a problem
     
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    It's a neck through.
     
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    you can absolutely build a neckthrough wrong.
     
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    no idea, though it was a set neck, still neck angle (or the angle of the fretboard in relation to the body) was calculated sliiiighty wrong then. Or "wrong" for the bridge at use, like Hipshots got a thicker baseplate, so that would look "normal" on a hipshot. Or the fretboard was cut a bit thicker, or using taller frets than normal, or donno really

    eitherway the OP says he got high action, its not hes ran out of saddle adjustment, so hes fine and the guitar is fine. Just need a neck relief adjustment, then he can start messing with the saddle (and nut) to bring them down for a better action
     
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    If he did need to raise the bridge - it's fairly easy to do with a couple of paper/ thin wood shims underneath it. It's not unlike raising or lowering the action on the bridge with an acoustic guitar.
     
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    Give it a setup before worrying.
     
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    Weren't maxed out saddles a common problem with Kiesels at some point? Let's hope you have a proper neck angle.
     
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    It was, because their bolt-ons have the plane of the fretboard higher above the plane of the face of the body. The issue was on their first modern-era bolt-ons to use the Hipshot bridges.
     
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    Ah. One would think that the plane, or fretboard height wouldn't matter a thing but it has an impact on playability. Had one partscaster where the neck was too thick at the pocket which forced to adjust the saddles as high as possible. Then again this lead a greater break-angle at the bridge and made bending more stiff etc... Ended up selling that in parts and got more what I paid for it as a whole.
     

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