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Is this a surprise?
This was the first I have heard of it.
Another iconic brand getting rebuilt.
 

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Wouldn't surprise me if they looked at how Mesa dealt with Gibson and thought it was a good move for themselves. Brings in money for future R&D and makes them more secure. They haven't exactly been pushing the envelope or brought anything out that caught peoples attention like when they released the JVM series years ago.
 

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Not really surprised. The reissue of the older pedals was the biggest news I'd heard about the brand in almost a decade since the JVM came out.

EDIT: Here a Forbes write up for anyone interested.
 

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Marshall amps have cost an absolute fortune in the States, especially since Brexit - literally twice as much as they are at Andertons. Maybe they can find a better distro and increase their sales in the massive American market. The way things were going, Marshall couldn't compete against their own used market here in the States.
 

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Reading the article, it's less "Marshall is in dire straits so Zounds bought up a failing company" and more "we worked well together so might as well merge our companies". It even sounds like the Marshall family will still have lots of sway due to being majority shareholders.
 

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It seems odd just after a major product launch in terms of the vintage pedals. The general feedback I have had from the few retailers I have an ear with is the pedals are actually doing quite well. Personally I like the reissue amplifiers, I had to get a few of those myself and love them. I wonder if these will be the first for the chopping block? Similarly I would also hope that the Milton Keynes shop is unaffected.

At the same time, I hope they do invest themselves in some innovation. While it is a little difficult to innovate in the guitar amplifier arena, I think a big market they could be looking at is the metal market. The one notable thing about Marshall is that none of them speak metal natively. They speak rock fluently and you can easily coax a good metal tone out of a typical Marshall with judicious use of a tubescreamer or something. But they don't have a mad bastard like the Peavey 6505 or an Engl. I think this is a significant sector of the market that a good Marshall head would do well in.
 

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Marshall amps have cost an absolute fortune in the States, especially since Brexit - literally twice as much as they are at Andertons. Maybe they can find a better distro and increase their sales in the massive American market. The way things were going, Marshall couldn't compete against their own used market here in the States.

And unfortunately Andertons now will not ship Marshall to the US... I had been eyeing bringing over a 2203 since it was $1k less to do that vs buying in the US. The amps are now listed as "Not available at your location" whereas I had one added to cart and had a shipping quote to the US about 2 weeks ago.
 

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And unfortunately Andertons now will not ship Marshall to the US... I had been eyeing bringing over a 2203 since it was $1k less to do that vs buying in the US. The amps are now listed as "Not available at your location" whereas I had one added to cart and had a shipping quote to the US about 2 weeks ago.
The German chain, The Music Store, will still ship to the States. Euros.
 

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All they have to do reissue the YJM and KK amps and can basically print money for a year or two. Those were such killer amps, now going for 2-3x their new prices.
 

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It seems odd just after a major product launch in terms of the vintage pedals. The general feedback I have had from the few retailers I have an ear with is the pedals are actually doing quite well. Personally I like the reissue amplifiers, I had to get a few of those myself and love them. I wonder if these will be the first for the chopping block? Similarly I would also hope that the Milton Keynes shop is unaffected.

At the same time, I hope they do invest themselves in some innovation. While it is a little difficult to innovate in the guitar amplifier arena, I think a big market they could be looking at is the metal market. The one notable thing about Marshall is that none of them speak metal natively. They speak rock fluently and you can easily coax a good metal tone out of a typical Marshall with judicious use of a tubescreamer or something. But they don't have a mad bastard like the Peavey 6505 or an Engl. I think this is a significant sector of the market that a good Marshall head would do well in.

I'm not sure what you consider a "mad bastard" amp, but is the JVM not in that category for you? Genuine question, not being snarky.
 

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I'm not sure what you consider a "mad bastard" amp, but is the JVM not in that category for you? Genuine question, not being snarky.
Its not my thing but the DSL can get heavy too. So can the Silver Jubilee. But yeah the JVM is legit a metal monster of an amp and is IMO a sleeper in the high gain department.

Also I'm still wondering why people are seeing this as doom and gloom? Like I said earlier; it seems less like someone buying a dead comany and more like a merger of sorts.
 
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Its not my thing but the DSL can get heavy too. So can the Silver Jubilee. But yeah the JVM is legit a metal monster of an amp and is IMO a sleeper in the high gain department.

Also I'm still wondering why people are seeing this as doom and gloom? Like I said earlier; it seems less like someone buying a dead comany and more like a merger of sorts.

Because people love to whine and complain. See the Mesa / Gibson thing... meanwhile Mesas are now actually in stock again and new Mk VII is killer
 

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Because people love to whine and complain. See the Mesa / Gibson thing... meanwhile Mesas are now actually in stock again and new Mk VII is killer
This is true lol.
Not only does the new company get named after Marshall, but the family also retains a majority stake in the new company. 24% stake ain't no joke lmao.
 

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Those Zound/Marshall BT speakers are not actually bad. Most (all?) models have a zero lag aux jack and work nicely as a small FRFR speaker. I bought a old floor model Killburn 2 for like ~$75 and use it with my HX stomp for practice. Z/M could literally just slightly tweak a few models (add 1/4 jack, get rid of the BT) and sell these for guitar use.

It would be nice if the cash infusion allows them to launch new stuff. There are so many models they could reissue and make money. For example the KK (like previously mentioned) and Valvestate 8100. I would prob buy a more compact/modern 8100. Something the size of a lunchbox amp.
 
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