Marshall DSL50 vs DSL20HR

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  1. Guitarjon

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    I have a Marshall DSL 50 JCM 2000 as well as a DSL20HR that I've recently got in a trade. Both are cool amps for sure! I had another DSL20HR a year or so ago that I bought from a store but it had a really bad hum so I returned that and exchanged it for the DSL 50 which I've had since. I really dug the idea of the DSL20HR so I had to give it another try. Since I got my DSL20HR (or even before that) people have asked me about how the 2 amps compare, so I thought I'd offer my 2 cents and a comparison video/demo.

    The DSL 50 JCM 2000 is made in the UK. I'm not sure in what year mine was made but I know mine used to belong to a well known gear/backline rental company so it came with a nice flightcase. I love how this amp has 2 channels with each 2 voices. This amp can do pretty much anything from clean to heavy rock stuff. The added 'deep' and 'tone shift' voicing options are nice for tone shaping. What can I say about the sound? Well, I'm no Marshall expert but to me it does a great job of producing that classic marshall sound with some extra versatility. To me this amp does have a 'vintage' touch to it but I'm used to modern rock amps.

    The DSL20HR is made in Vietnam. Just like the bigger DSL 50 this amp has 2 EL34's in the power section. Some of the features are different. The reverb is digital for example and the deep switch has been replaced by a resonance control, which is pretty great actually. This amp also has only 2 modes as opposed to 4 on the DSL 50. There's the classic gain channel and the ultra gain. This amp has a bit of a different sound than the DSL 50 but to your ears this might be subtle. This amp tends to have a little bit more sparkle in the top-end and a bigger low-end surprisingly. The DSL 50 on the other hand sounds a little bit more organic and vintage-y.

    Both are really cool! The DSL20HR may be cheap but it's a great little amp! Try it out first in a store though to see if there are no hum issues. I think both are pretty good at metal, at least if you're into that organic Marshall tone! The DSL20HR is just a tad more modern sounding EQ wise. I'm currently looking at a JVM401H because I just really love how these amps sit in the mix...

    I would love to know what you think of these amps, the video and if you guys have any experience with either or both of them. To compare the amps directly you can skip to the isolated segments near the ending. There are also timecodes in the description.

    Marshall DSL 50 vs DSL20HR:

     
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    Thanks for the review. I'll give the video a watch later, but I've been wondering about the DSL20 for a while, so cheers!
     
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    The 50w sounds more open,more upper mids...the 20 is a little dark.I prefer the 50 in this demo although i guess you can make them sound similar with different settings.

    Those JCM2000 are very underated,even though i am not a Marshall fan i was tempted a couple of times getting one since there are very affordable in the used market.I just had bad experience with Marshall,i find the highs shrill and noisy.
     
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    Yeah man, JCM2000's are sick! I tried to make the DSL20HR more bright like the DSL50 but anytime I turned up the treble or presence control it got bright in a different way. How I dialed them in now is their 'sweetspot' to my ears.
     
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    Thanks for another cool video. I was honestly a bit surprised at how similar they sounded, which is not to say they sounded the same but in the mix I had a pretty hard time picking out differences. Isolated it was clear there were some differences, but it's clear Marshall did a great job carrying the JCM2000 legacy into the new DSL amps.
     
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    I agree! The DSL50 seems to sound a little bit more organic, so a little bit looser and fuzzier whereas the DSL20HR sounds a little bit more tight and 'harsh' (for lack of a better term because I don't mean this in a bad way). Both deliver on that classic Marshall tone though.
     
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    Beauty. Marshall how it was meant to be. On row of knobs lol
     
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    Haha! My JVM will be a bit different in that regard :)
     
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    Yeah lol I know they sound good so I bite my tongue about it. Just look odd lol.
     
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    I got my JVM410H today! I'm super stoked! It's used but it seems to be working well. I really like this amp. The clean tones are good, the crunch tones are pretty good but I need to experiment a bit more to get the tones I'd want from it. The OD1 and OD2 channels are really good! Super tight and as saturated as I need for high gain rock and metal. Playing this amp is a really different experience from my DSL's, that's for sure. The DSL's have a more loose and vintage feel overall whereas the JVM definitely feels more modern on the OD channels. Really cool amp! What I also love: - 3 modes per channel! This gives a LOT of tonal options! - Resonance and presence controls. I would love it if every amp had this.

    Of course I will do a full on in-depth demo soon but it's also going to be fun to include this in comparisons!
     
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