Looking for high gain madness!

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by gregmarx7, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. gregmarx7

    gregmarx7 SS.org Regular

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    Hey guys, I'm on the search for a new amp and cab.
    I play mostly metal, so I want a good high gain sound that sounds really heavy, and still "djenty". haha

    Now, I want something that will be fairly easy to record with, and be able to use live also.

    So, I've been considering the axe fx, simply for the ease of recording and because of the versatility. If I also get the atomic power block by fractal, would that be good for live playing? and is 50w enough for a venue of a couple hundred people? And if so, will I need a 4x12 cab or will a 2x12 be sufficient?

    The two tube amp heads I've been looking at are the Framus Cobra and the Engl Powerball II. Would you suggest these over the axe fx? Price wise, they all seem to come out about the same, the framus being a little cheaper than the other two.

    Thanks in advance guys,
    Greg
     
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    Chickenhawk A Bad Idea Contributor

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    50watts is plenty for a gig, since you'll be mic'd. If you're not, then it's the shittiest venue in existence :lol:
     
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    gregmarx7 SS.org Regular

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    Yeah, my amp is almost always mic'd when I'm playing, so I guess I don't have to worry about that. haha
     
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    Use what sounds best :yesway:
     
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    I would suggest you look at a mesa triple rec.
     
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    50W is plenty loud. I've never had to push my 60 watt power amp passed 11 o'clock at a show when I use it with my Axe FX.
     
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    You see Megadeth up there, with a wall of Marshalls behind Mustaine, and it's mic'd. What they do is only have one working speaker in one 4x12 out of that whole wall of 'em and they mic that. Also, they may have a high power head (100W-150W sometimes) so they use a Hot Plate as a power attenuator.
    4x12 cabs supposedly give a bigger tone. Fatter, heavier, etc. But with a 4x12 comes the hassle of carrying the big lug around.
    2x12 are obviously easier to handle, take up less space, and, if you're useing a power attenuator, will easily handle a high power head.
    So basically
    5150-THD Hot Plate-cab of your choice.

    As for the AxeFx... I say go for it. Chris Broderick, Rusty Cooley, all of them love it. Personally I don't like rack mount effects/modeling units. They sound too processed. But the AxeFx sounds the most natural out of what you listed, and it'll probably last longest.
     
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    Sweet guys, thanks for the input.
     
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    Just curious... why use a high power head (ala 100-150 watts) and attenuate the signal when you can just use a 50 (or lower) watt head and get to the same place? I remember reading that Chuck Schuldiner used a small GK 250ML miked up behind his wall of Marshalls on his last tour. That would seem to make more sense to me...
     
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    So, basically you are asking him "why does it go to eleven?"
     
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    I have a nice randall for sale in the classifieds, RH50T..
     
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    Because the high power head will have more punch and tighter lows. I don't attenuate, I just turn down if I absolutely have to :flex:
     
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    Philligan The White-Knuckler Contributor

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    QFT :agreed:

    I'm also gonna say +1 to the Axe-Fx, just because I love it.
     
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    What he said.
    For all I care you could mic a Blackstar HT5 and I wouldn't criticize it. I just think a higher power amp sounds better. Tighter bottom end and they cut through better IMHO.
     
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    Seriously dude? I've seen Megadeth 3 times and I think you're either totally deaf or have a serious hearing impairment because I'm always right up front it sounds exactly like what I see sitting up on the stage. I've also watched their sound checks before with their techs playing their guitars and again I can tell you its more than 1 speaker. When I saw them last summer they had screens in front of their cabinets but when they broke down their equipment to prepare for Slayer I saw both Mustaine and Broderick each had two full Marshall stacks.
     
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    1 working speaker.
    That or they all work and they use a power attenuator or something.
    Either way, it's mic'd.

    EDIT:
    Budda is high gain.
     
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    Bogner Uberschall?
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    Splawn Nitro with KT88's.
     
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