Looking for a Guitar without a scarf jointed neck.

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  1. Helixx Guitars

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    Hey guy I wandered over here from the Marshall Forum.
    I'm looking for a 7-String Guitar without a scarf jointed neck.
    I was looking at the Jackson USA B7DX Electric Guitar w Ebony Fretboard Satin Black but to my disappointment found it was also a scarf jointed neck.
    My preference is neck through without a scarf joint.
    TIA,
    Helixx


    I really like this sound. Although most here might not.
    But this picks up where my preferred genre left off in the late 80's in lieu of TG putting me out of business.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Carvin does neck-through with no scarf joint.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for the reply Max. Funny, Lexi and I we just sitting here watch Carvins Youtube channel. Carvin Guitars - YouTube
    We were also watching Tone Kings Youtube videos on the build of his guitar.
    Carvin correctly makes a guitar. Only it just doesn't say Jackson, Fender or Gibson. I will now have to seriously look at Carvin though
     
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    Max, that's a good looking Axe. Chance I could see a pick of the front.
    Both Lexi and I came back for a second look.
     
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    I know this is a bit of [​IMG], but what about a non-scarf-jointed neck is "correct" and "wrong" on a scarf-jointed neck?

    Ray
     
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    When I post something I go back and re-read it 5 or 6 times to make sure someone won't take my poor sentence structure out of context. That and I have been up for 22 hours doing research.
    I'll state for the record I prefer non scarf jointed necks to clear the air.
    Apologies sir. No offence intended.

    What makes a guitar a Baritone? Pickups? Body size?
     
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    None taken. I'm just curious why folks have certain preferences. I prefer scarf joints because:
    • I hate string trees -- They're just another point for friction.
    • To me, an angled headstock made from a single piece of wood, is a tremendous waste of wood -- Scarf joints using the "cut and flip" method are the most efficient use of material.
    Kinda like I know people like butter-pecan ice-cream, but I have no idea why (even though I do like butter and pecans, just not together in one flavor).

    Ray

    Originally it was the tuning (down a fifth), but it has come to mean pretty much any guitar that has a scale length longer than 25-1/2" (typically 27" - 30", although some folks consider 26-1/2" scaled guitars baritones) because "Baritone Tuned" guitars often had longer scale lengths.

    "Baritone Guitar" is in there with the phrases: "tremolo tailpieces" (they do vibrato) and "zero radius fretboards" (they're actually infinite radius, no-radius or null-radius) -- labels that are used incorrectly.

    Ray
     
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    Thanks for the info Ray. Looks like Carvin does not make a 27 to 30 in a 7 string.
    The fella in the video is using a 25-1/2" scale.
     
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    I agree with this, but scarf jointed necks always gave me the feeling of something cheap. Its one of those things that I know I'm being stupid thinking this way, but It is what always pops into my head when I see one.
    At any rate, having a glued headstock, I much prefer the look of this type of joints, and I've seen various luthiers saying it is a much stronger joint
    (the second one)
    [​IMG]
     
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    Looks like if you don't choose a multilaminate neck, the Carvin neck is a single piece.

    BC Rich, at least in the old days, makes neck through guitars where the entire neck was one piece.

    I don't know how ESP does it.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    What's your budget? KxK doesn't use scarf joints, but you're looking at >$2k for one. There are a couple of in-stock 7s online right now http://kxkguitars.com/instock.html

    As Max already pointed out Carvin is a really good choice as well.
     
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    I came here to say that, and I see that you already posted a picture of my baby's back :hbang:
     
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    Mine have been 3-piece necks with a volute. Even the custom shop ones
     
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    [​IMG]

    Mayones! regius and setius models.
     
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    So other than building one myself the only way I'm going to have a full neck through with no scarf joint or laminated neck is build it myself.
    Also would I be the only one on the planet building these?
    Let me also add would I be the only one in the US building these also?


    Poland is a very long way from where I'm at.
    Custom shop - Mayones Guitars & Basses - handmade in Poland since 1982
    They are nice though.
     
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    Pretty much any custom shop can build a one piece neck through... KxK has done them (and has also done one piece guitars). I'm also pretty sure if you specifically ordered it Carvin, Jackson or one of the larger custom shops could also do it no problem.

    So no you would not be the only one in the US building them :lol:
     
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    Is this dude looking for an SSO sound bite or something? I'm calling shenanigans of some sort.
     
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    In the 80's I could walk into most guitar shops and just buy a neck through.
    What's going on here?
    Why is a full neck through a custom shop item?
     

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