Kiesel VM7 pickup options: Guitarmory, Instrumental, Lundgren?

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  1. Krucifixtion

    Krucifixtion Duncan Hills

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    Hey all, need some input on different pickups for a Kiesel Vader Multiscale 7. The Kiesel Lithium pickups aren't bad pickups, but the bridge especially just isn't for me. It's a little too bright and almost too clear/twangy in a way that doesn't suit me. I'm more of a ceramic bridge guy.

    1. I love the Lundgren M7, but I am looking for something that's just a touch more versatile. I'm uncertain on the Black Heavens and I know that having custom built Lundgren will be the most expensive option.

    2. The Instrumental Pickups SFTY-3's seem like a good option, but still haven't heard enough to be certain.

    3. Guitarmory has great options too, but I am even less certain on them than the Instrumental Pickups. Looking at the Foxbat possibly.

    The guitar has Swamp Ash body, Buckeye Maple top, 7 Piece neck - Black Limba with 2 White Limba, and 2 Purple Heart strips, as well as Ebony Fretboard. The guitar is already tonally pretty clear sounding. Active pickups are out of the question on this one.
     
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    KnightBrolaire unofficial sso pickup tester

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    out of those options, the m7 will be the brightest, then sfty3, then foxbats.

    Personally I'd take the foxbats, or maybe a polaris set if you want something even warmer sounding. Either option will be more versatile than the M7 or sfty3 sets ime.
     
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    jarledge SS.org Regular

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    the angle on the muilti scale has to be taken in to consideration. I know guitarmory does angled pickups, and they can even rewind your stock pickups. The kiesel routes are tight fitting so any other brand may require that you trim the mounting legs of the pickup.

    I think either way guitarmory is your best bet. I love the foxbat set I have, they are a medium output and very clear and articulate.
     
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    spudmunkey SS.org Regular

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    Angles for Kiesel multiscale pickups:
    6-string: 10.2304 degrees
    7-string: 13.339 degrees
    8-string: 11.0186 degrees

    Their pickup routes are always a bit form-fitting to their pickups, but on multiscale, since there's no covered pickups available, they are even tighter.

    From the forum and the facebook group:
    - Instrumental Pickups can
    - Seymour Duncan can, but it can take a looong while
    - Bare Knuckle pickups has angled pickups, but while they say they are "close enough", some find that they aren't.
    - Elysian Pickups can
    - Someone posted: "I think Oil City Pickups can"
    - Wolftone can do re-winds on the existing pickups...not sure if they can make 'fresh' angles pickups without existing base plates.
    - Guitarmory also does re-winds and also new pickups
     
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    makecamera SS.org Regular

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    I have a set of SFTY3-7 in my VM7 and love them. They are bright though, but doesn't hit that obnoxious frequency range like the lithium's do. I really like the split sound as well in both bridge and neck. These are very clear and modern sounding. Best for drop tunings.

    I looked at guitarmory as well and would still like to try them, but out of all of the options, Instrumental were the cheapest and Ethan has already built several pickups for Kiesel multiscale models, so no "custom shop" or special orders.

    The downside was that I had to order through an Instagram message. Worked out fine though and actually ordered another SFTY3/Decomp set for my V8.
     
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    Avedas SS.org Regular

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    Guitarmory rewind is $80 and is guaranteed to fit in your guitar. I love my Foxbats, they're absolutely insane and cover a lot of ground.
     
  7. Krucifixtion

    Krucifixtion Duncan Hills

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    I think i'm looking towards the SFTY-3's the most. What's the difference between the SFTY-3 and Decomp? Is it a ceramic bridge?
     
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    Krucifixtion Duncan Hills

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    Can they rewind Lithiums to sound like their pickups? I'd still have an Alnico pickup though. Are yours alnico or ceramic? I'm confused as to why their ceramic option shows that you get a ceramic neck as well?
     
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    Avedas SS.org Regular

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    Mine are alnico. Their order form is kinda shit but if you just message them or whatever you can mix magnets in your set if you want. I don't really know the details of rewinding.
     
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    Krucifixtion Duncan Hills

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    I'm still also interested in the Black Heavens, but I don't think I've seen Lundgrens in a multiscale Vader yet. Considering I have seen both Instrumental and Guitarmory in one I will probably stick with that route I guess. Sounds to me like the SFTY-3 might have what I'm looking for, but what is more similar for Guitarmory? Foxbat or Orion? Maybe a Ceramic Foxbat would be my style.
     
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    I don’t have much to add other than I really dig my Black Heaven in my RG7620.
     
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    I recently got a set of Guitarmory Atlas’s and they sound great. The rewind, I am told, sounds exactly like the regular one. My recent order went 5 weeks if that matters at all for you.
     

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