Kiesel --- Never Again!

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  1. Chokey Chicken

    Chokey Chicken mouth breather

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    I can't speak for others but I like a lot of the names for schecter guitars. Apocalypse isn't so much a guitar name as it is like a trim set. Pickups/finish/etc. You can have it sound equally strange by saying "grape jelly metallic Vader." (which I'd love to own might I add, even if it sounds stupid. lol.) I like the names Avenger, Banshee, and Omen. Less a fan of Demon, daimeon, and hellraiser.

    Bc rich is chock full of dumb laughable names. Warlock, war beast, beast, bich, ignitor, shredzilla, etc.

    My only nitpicky gripe about kiesel names is the peculiar usage of someone else's ip. Like, it's ultimately harmless, not a big deal, and it wouldn't stop me from buying another Vader. It's just, I don't know. For a company that's hell bent on not making an explorer so they can be "original" using unoriginal names is just a little funny to me.

    Call em whatever you want. Call the Vader a hag wagon and it wouldn't stop me from wanting a "grape jelly metallic hag wagon."
     
  2. kisielk

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  3. MaxOfMetal

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    Oh god, I remember that guy. Pretty sure he was at one of the WWF events I went to way the fuck back when it was still WWF.

    Also, I didn't really mean to nit-pick about names. I honestly don't care what things are called, as @Chokey Chicken has said, and my opinions are fairly in line with hers. There are tons of guitars out there with dumb names that I love.
     
  5. Jeff

    Jeff Banned from Reality

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    I don’t give a shit about the names, it’d just be nice to see a solid year or so without some sort of Jeff drama. I do still really dig their shapes.
     
  6. BigViolin

    BigViolin breakfast foods

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    It's not named after the cab company? :scratch:
     
  7. TheShreddinHand

    TheShreddinHand Uber Stringer

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    I always felt like the double guitar strap buttons (and guitar body they’re attached to) on the bottom of the Vader looked like a pair of saggy teats on a fat chick. Now I can’t UNSEE it!!
     
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    While we're on the subject... What IS the bottom strap button for? I get why the old Steinberger paddles had them- they were symetrical and that made it easier for left-handed players to flip them around. Made sense for a mass produced instrument.

    Why would you have that on not only an asymmetrical superstrat model, but one that's made to order and can be ordered left-handed???
     
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    To lean up against something. Really. That's why Tom Anderson started doing it in the 80's.
     
  10. Science_Penguin

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    Ah... Well... I guess that's one surefire way to do it without altering the design too much.
     
  11. spudmunkey

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    For Carvin, it started on the Holdsworth models, per Allan's request, for leaning.

    I've heard a couple people say that putting it on the bottom on is more comfortable. Something about the way it hangs when you've got a guy. I've also heard a couple people say they use the higher one when standing, and the lower one when sitting. Not sure why someone would do that, though.
     
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    It’s all about being able to stand it up. I’m pretty sure Holdsworth just got the idea from Steinberger, he used to play one before he got the Carvin.
     
  13. KnightBrolaire

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    looking through the last couple of pages it's surprising how many people didn't get that the vader was named after darth vader.
     
  14. spudmunkey

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    Ugh...shouldn't have posted so early. spelling corrections:

    "I've heard a couple people say that putting it on the bottom one is more comfortable. Something about the way it hangs when you've got a gut.""
     
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    Edit: Or was that a joke, and a "whoosh" on my end.?
     
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    The double bottom strap buttons actually work really good for leaning the guitar on something haha. Since it has 2 points of contact with the ground, its like impossible to knock it over sideways and unless the floor is super slick it's not really going to slide out "feet first"
     
  17. Andromalia

    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    I'm pretty sure that's the one vader the guitar isn't named after, because it's the one company that would have sued the hell out of him. (And with much ddeper pockets, to boot, more or less ensuring a win if I got the american judicial system right)
     
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    no it totally is.
     
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    Hmm, no, that doesnt sound right.
     
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