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Discussion in 'Extended Range Guitars' started by KnightBrolaire, Apr 20, 2018.
I'll be in my bunk...
I love Padalka but the back of the neck nowhere near as stunningly unobstructed as the Claas, and Claas do it with a bolt-on, therefore with more possibility as a low-cost design.
Claas' design still seems more ergonomic, innovative and clever, although with less quality and sculptural beauty. Padalka's designs are essentially more conventional, but without looking it.
Claas are more dedicated to headless too.
Actually that Saturn is a bolt-on. I don't see what makes Claas' guitars more 'ergonomic, innovative or clever,' but I'd agree that the neckjoint on the Claas is more accessible. The one on Padalka's Saturn seems about as accessible as a modern superstrat:
Nothing is more innovative and clever than ripping off an idea from Rick Toone.
That's a relatively newer example, but he's done similar construction for years prior.
And it's all just a reboot of the Stephen's Extended Cutaway from the 80's.
Claas probably has the worst execution of the three. They just make the neck "bigger" and plop it on the front of the body, which not only looks awful having that big squared off part but limits pickup placement as you mentioned. The Stephen's and Toone designs move the neck joint out of the way while not negatively affecting the design or placement of other components.
Yeah, for all Rick's innovations, I think he's more of a stepping stone on this one. Stephen's Extended Cutaway is progenitor of the idea so far as I know, although I don't doubt Claas probably lurks Rick Toone's blog.
Yeah, I don’t want to bag too much on the Class design (because I do like it), but there is nothing sexier than the back of that Padalka. There’s a little drool coming out of my mouth, just looking at it.
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Well, fuck. Now I've browsed through Padalka's galleries for the first time.
I'm gonna have to work more overtime now you jerks.
Well I just finished mocking up a Neptune double neck bass/guitar, so I'm not happy either! Hrmph!
So Claas was actually at the Holy Grail guitar show, like the pinnacle of solidbody exhibitions... wonder if anyone who was there noticed any glaring issues. The routes are at least superficially better than these other ones posted throughout the thread:
They remind me of 80’s key-tars lol
From the looks of it, when he feels like it he can make what looks like a flawless instrument. He just doesn't always seem to feel like it.
Like some other builders, while I'm sure the potential is there, I would never ever flip the coin on them. There are far too many builders with significantly better odds.
is it me or it doesnt have a nut?, jsut the 0 fret?..... I know the locking nut is there and it wont really affect much on the low string, but on the higher string theres enough string behind the 0 fret in order to move around. ? or its too close to do something?
In my experience (and by looking from the pic: I have NOT played that guitar) it's not that far to make you feel anything weird while playing... if anything the vibratos and bendings in the firsts frets can be a bit easier but I have never felt that advantage while playing guitars with similar construction -> no nut + zero fret
On the other hand... slanted neck pickup but straight bridge in a multiscale guitar? Why the hell would you do that?
Also... can anybody explain me WHY would you install lace alumitones upside down? (I'm talking about the straight scale one on the last pick... the Lace logo is upside down as you can clearly see...) Maybe those are custom made for Claas or something and sound different depending on the orientation? Because my experience with alumitones (x-bars and deathbars) was that doesn't matter not even a tiny bit... perfectly symmetrical construction.
So that the name is the right way up when you look at it from playing position.
Aren't the saddles the critical part on a multiscale, with the end piece being more equivalent to the stop tail on a TOM? Just like the lucking nut part being straight and the multiscale feature relying on a slanted nut or zero-fret......or am I way off base here?
Damn you, I was kinda digging the aesthetic but now all I can think of are clunky 80s electronics. And here I was about to say I kinda like the properly-done ones.
I believe he's referring to the pickups.