Jackson custom shop experiences?

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  1. StevenC

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    What's the Benedetto-Fender connection?
     
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    Fender has owned the Benedetto guitar brand for years.
     
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    Huh, don't know how I didn't know that. Thanks.

    EDIT: I guess there was a licensing agreement for a while, but they're independent now.
     
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    Huh, didn't realize the split was that long ago. How time flies.
     
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    Yeah, the Fender shop is run completely separately. They are "custom" and actually are open to orders but have limits. They will NOT build a 7-string. I never bothered to ask if they'd do 8. I assume not but it's possible that the issue specifically is with 7 strings but that seems unlikely.
     
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    Trying to remember if they won't make a 7 string because they just won't or if old man Gregory has the patent for it stitched up too tight.
     
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    No 7-strings, but this is fine: https://www.themusiczoo.com/product...i-masterbuilt-dennis-galuszka-3-tone-sunburst
     
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    You are wrong. They can make you a 7 string, but the problem is you have to go to the masterbuild option for that. And as of now, they are not doing any more masterbuilds until noticed otherwise due to their backlog. The point is they are still custom, but they have limits that are really strict and don't have a lot of wiggle room, therefore i consider it semi-custom
     
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    Fender will not do 7-string.
     
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    I just reread that. I am really retarded
     
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    As far as I'm aware Gregory's patent expired, but the patent wasn't really of any value. Because you can't patent a guitar with extra an extra string. The reason Fender won't make a 7 string is because Gregory being a prick really soured them on the idea and they are busy enough to say no.

    There are a few other companies that Gregory has tried to sue over what he thinks his intellectual property is, and they are scare tactics to waste your time and money but he never gets anything out of it.
     
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    I just don't think it's a high volume enough item for Fender to concern itself with. Their bread and butter players skew "old school", and as already mentioned, they're raking in orders.

    We might see another Squier at some point.
     
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    I wonder if things might be different now with Ron Thorn heading the CS stuff for Fender.
     
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    Did he ever make any 7s?
     
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    Not sure, but he's certainly worked on a bunch of 7s for Schecter.
     
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    Ron Thorn told me last year, after he joined Fender, that they could not make me a 7-string.

    In theory Jackson and Charvel will do it as a Masterbuild (and an 8-string also), except that they haven't been accepting normal-people Masterbuild orders for a long time.

    I know that I'm always plugging Schecter and I really don't want to sound like a shill, but I hounded Jackson/Charvel dealers for years trying to get this done and rarely got any response at all, and even when I did finally get responses, it was always "NO." Schecter was completely different. They communicate every well, and they are up for whatever you want as long as it doesn't infringe someone else's trademarks etc. And their build quality is absolutely top tier. I have no desire at all to waste any more time or mental energy hoping for Jackson or Charvel.

    I've not made a custom order from ESP, but I've played some custom ESPs and holy smokes those are nice too. And they will definitely do whatever you want, particularly if you have a way to place the order and accept delivery in Japan (and then import it to the US yourself).
     
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    Yeah, I wasn't sure if you had asked pre or post Thorn. Oh well.

    Also, 100% agree on Schecter.
     
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    Yeah, as soon as I saw that Thorn joined Fender, I sent him a message to place an order for a 7-string. I was really hopeful that he'd do it and was pretty depressed with his answer.
     
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    Disclaimer: while I absolutely HATE the term (and concept) of calling someone a "master builder", I'd still call Thorn one. Technique and execution beyond reproach.

    But...he's not really pushing the envelope in as far as more strings, longer scales, etc.

    His own "Thorn Guitars" were very traditional in design. Just incredibly well done.
     
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    All the more reason to go with Kiesel IMO, just avoid any option 50 so you can send it back if needed.
     

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