Is it best to pass on used BRJ guitars?

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  1. Panacea224

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    SpaceDock Shred till your dead

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    I was in the Black Friday run and that is certainly from that era. Iirc the 727 with specs like that was only 1700 or so at that time. I can’t say much about the quality because I never got mine.
     
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    Unless you can handle it in person, stay away. It's not worth the heartburn if it was one of the "bad" ones. Folks have spent thousands getting them playable.

    Not to mention the bad juju from possibly being someone's guitar that was paid for and never delivered.
     
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    Thank you both. I will stay away. It seemed priced too high to me and wasn't sure it was worth the risk of getting a bad one.
     
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    Carl Kolchak Last of the famous international playboys

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    Did know one ever take legal action against him?
     
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    I know at least one person was in active litigation, but I don't believe it went anywhere in the end. Just a judgment that's unenforceable at best.

    Folks just waited too long, weren't proactive enough, and couldn't organize to get anywhere in the end. The few who had the drive to get a resolution didn't have the resources, or were from too far away, and those with the resources just wanted to wash thier hands of it.

    If you want a wild read, take on the whole BRJ thread, it's a roller-coaster. Tons of information though, and required reading for anyone who wants to get into bespoke guitars.
     
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    I don't know if it was unfinished or flawed but Brian from Bowes Guitars on here (very respected and capable luthier) had one he was working on for a client and it seemed like it took forever to make it usable. He might be better to explain that. This is his IG https://instagram.com/bowesguitars

    I've played a couple and they were great, I was actually tempted by the Black Friday sale. It's not like be never made a good guitar, it's that he didn't make his guitars at all :lol: So as a result, there was minimal QC going on in that shop, especially some of the guitars that were rushed or half build to quell the Black Friday riots.
     
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    Looking to read that thread, but can't find it? search function didn't come up with anything. But damn do I love a good drama to read.
     
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    I did. There is a Colorado warranty for his arrest, but the police told me that it is unlikely that even if he got arrested in California that the Colorado charges would be pressed and that it is even more unlikely that a Colorado officer would ever go out there to get him. It’s really lame because they more or less told me they don’t have resources to ever do anything because it is just money.
     
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    Such a shame the Hesperian was such a good shape. He could have at least had the dignity to scam people with ugly guitars :lol:
     
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    Knowing that that person keeps the dog’s water bowl right where you’d step out of the house, I would not trust that guitar.
     
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    Didn't he show up at a recent NAMM only to have to be then escorted out by the cops?
     
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    I know he went to at least one NAMM, back in 16' or 17', but I didn't hear about cops or anything. Everyone was going on about being a tough guy and confronting/breaking his legs, etc. but I never heard of anything happening.

    I've heard from folks I know either still in the industry or adjacent that he's been trying to setup something up for awhile, but he scammed enough dealers towards the end, and the Black Friday shenanigans are more widely known now that he can't really trade on his name anymore, which is really all he's got.
     
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    Man, what a read. The best part probably being the "lurker" who popped in in the first few pages to say Bernie was a scammer only to be rebuked by all the purchasers defending Bernie with " No WAI MAN, he's gud and his guitarz r gonna be UHmazing!"

    More than two years later, I hope he was just yelling "I told you so!" at the screen.
     
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    Yeah, that was mine. It’s both unfinished AND flawed. I got a guitar from him (BRJ) prior to that (traded with Pat Sheridan for my USA Jackson plus cash) that played really nicely. So when the Black Friday run came up I jumped at it. Brian has had to do quite a bit to get it playable. I would definitely stay away unless you can play it in person, and you know what you’re looking for when evaluating it. Some of those stayed in the warehouse with no temperature control for months, and could be warped to all hell.
     
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    For a moment I thought this thread was referring to a Jekyll 727 that recently appeared in one of the Aussie FB groups. Poor thing got Flody swapped :( 116706541_10219348399672976_6470155145608095089_o.jpg
     
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    the good news is if you like the body shape you can just get one of the new Merrow sigs, they're essentially the same
     
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    I hate it. Seriously, that neck pickup all slanted looks horrible and it ruins the whole guitar for me..
     
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    that amount of cash gets you a near perfect guitar from a dozen great companies, why buy a possible lemon from a garbage company, value can only go down

    listed 3 months ago... lol
     

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