Is grindcore metal or punk?

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  1. DXL

    DXL SS.org Regular

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    Ive been trying to figure out whether grindcore is a form of punk or a form of metal, because some sounds like punk and some sounds like metal

    for example
    this sounds like metal:


    but this sounds like punk


    both of these bands are grindcore
     
  2. Pooluke41

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    It's grindcore...
     
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    gunch Riff Chugman

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    Its the best of both
     
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    PyramidSmasher Chess Dragon

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    In origin its more punk, but since the sound appeals to both communities it makes sense that over time the line would blur
     
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    Easy, it's crap :lol:
     
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    Crap.

    But it's right in between the two.

    It's either a really terrible excuse for metal, or a really fast punk.
     
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    Grindcore is far from crap......


    Anyways, it's more punk to me but more obnoxious.
     
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    Alright, IN MY OPINION, it is crapPY SOUNDING.

    That's the way I SHOULD have said it. I love, fast, brutal death metal but Grindcore just counds like scratchy, fuzzy noise to me.

    There have been a select few songs I like from the genre but I dislike 95% of it.
     
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    It's a definite acquired taste. Scott Hull described it best by saying that he writes the music he does because, basically, he's impatient.

    The tone does kill it sometimes if everything is inaudible.
     
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    It's basically like taking a bunch of awesome badassery and putting it into musical form.
     
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    Adam Of Angels The GAS Man

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    It's like stripping away all musical elements, but playing music anyway..... and doing it real hard. And there's a dose of grizzly bear in there too.
     
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    Been a grind head forever.

    It's punk music taken to the extreme.
     
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    I feel like some bands edge more towards punk, and more towards metal.

    /genericanswer

    :lol:
     
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    Mprinsje st. anger ain't bad!

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    why care? it's bloody brilliant, that's what it is.
     
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    It's both, I've been a Nasum fan like forever :lol:
     
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    It took aspects of extreme metal, hardcore and industrial and mixed it all together. Its a more defined classification now, IMO. Back in the 80's you had bands like Napalm Death and Godflesh both being labelled as grind. But the earlier stuff was more about a certain sound being 'grind' not just bands that play blast beats etc.
     
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    hairychris Hairy Old Bloke

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    Yeah, listen to old UK grind from the mid 80s (Napalm Death "Scum" and "FETO", Electro Hippies, Doom, etc etc) and it's basically crusties or punks playing bastardised punk/metal really quickly, usually with very politicised lyrics. This merged with the proto-death metal scene with bands like Bolt Thrower pushing thrash to the extreme from the other direction. Napalm Death illustrate the cross-over perfectly with how they mutated into a more extreme metal sound away from their more punk/crust roots.

    Not sure about US grind, but I am aware that there was a lot of crossover between the UK grind scene and the early US death metal scene (Morbid Angel, etc) late 80s/early 90s. Heck, I saw Napalm Death play with Obituary in 1991*... Also not sure where the more extreme US hardcore comes in but I think that this was an influence too.

    * Good gig. There was still a bit of a split in the crowd between the punk/skinheads NApalm Death fans, and the long-haired metallers who were more into Obituary. Both ruled fwiw, even though I was a long-hair at the time!
     
  18. Grand Moff Tim

    Grand Moff Tim Some call me... Tim

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    If you take metal, give it punk's production values, then replace all that unnecessary weedly-deedly nonsense with more anger, you've got Grind.

    And thank Crom for that.
     
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