If Misha Ordered An Oni (Oni Content, Obviously)

Discussion in 'Extended Range Guitars' started by narad, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. Thaeon

    Thaeon Cosmic Question Asker

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    Just details about the VH4 really. I have a Herbert. There are a lot of similarities. Used to have a Multiwatt Triple as well.
     
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    congrats! Dan is the man. he as a person is awesome. him as a business man ever better. him as a guitar builder, one of the greats!
     
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    Sick guitar, man! What does it weigh (and that's not a snarky question)?
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    Honestly no clue and without a scale. Better to ask @dpm
     
  5. Thaeon

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    The 7 string I played was light. Really light. 7lbs or less?
     
  6. narad

    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    It's in the neck, not aesthetic like originally planned.
     
  7. dpm

    dpm Oni Guitars Contributor

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    Honestly no clue either. About average-ish guitar weight?
    This one is heavy for an Essi because it has a heavy ash body, but Essis aren't heavy guitars. It'd be excessively heavy as a Tele, but it's not a Tele.
    I don't weigh them, I'm more concerned about balance and weight distribution than actual weight measurements. As for the guitar weight thing in general, having played a zillion guitars as a tech I don't find it an accurate gauge of anything other than what a guitar weighs.

    Having said that, I have been weighing a batch of 3 Spanish Cedar bodies from the same board. They're insanely light and I'm trying some stuff related to mass, balance and tone. As far as tone goes I don't expect to learn anything other than very general relative stuff.
     
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    What a beautiful guitar. There is a bloke here in Aus selling a couple on FB (well at least he was a few weeks ago) and it was very tempting to grab one. I just fear about resale value with these ultra boutique brands. Another guy here in Australia (Searls) recently closed up and I've seen a lot of his guitars up on FB and they're going for a lot less than it would've cost to buy. I suppose that goes for many brands, but still, with boutique there is a greater risk I feel than with brands like ESP where you have signature models now commanding 3x or 4x their original purchase price.
     
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    oni seems to hold their value pretty well from what I've seen. shame about searls, he was building some nice stuff.
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    That's the rule -- boutique guitars will be available used less than it would've cost to buy new. When there's a blackmachine or some temporary push in prices or some limited sig model that goes up, those are the exceptions.

    And I guess it's going to vary depending on where one lives but ESP sig models commanding 3x-4x their price? I'm seeing sigs 30-40% their original price all day long. Currently wondering if I should get a Sugizo mixed media for like 60% its original price just because.

    I think the takeaway is not to buy guitars as investments. If you're really concerned with value, always buy used.
     
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    Damn at the amps in the background though
     
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    Buying a custom guitar with resale in mind is such a strange concept to me. Like...would you buy a tailored suit in a size other than your own because it's a more common size and would be easier to sell?
     
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    I could suffocate in your living room and I'd die happy. You are so blessed to have all that ridiculously awesome gear man!
     
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    Stoopid Jealous I AM.
     
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    by the look of things, I doubt this fella worries much.. Man ..my eyes!!
     
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    Re: the rule and exceptions; I hear ya, and agree. It's more an observation or even a guess as to what prices might be like far down the line based on what we've seen to this point. I'm sure there were boutique guitar makers in the 60s and 70s, but I don't see much noise about them today compared to people who have 60s and 70s Fenders or Gibsons that go for high prices.

    Of course, no one buys a custom guitar with resale in mind, you go custom because you want something personal, something that you'll keep for as long as you live. And yet, I see so many pop up on the market recently; searls, ormsby, oni, kiesel, aristides etc. My point is that 30 years from now the likelihood some boutique brands will increase in value is less than the likelihood of a guitar from an iconic/established brand.

    Re: the ESP comment, you're probably right, it might depend on where one is. I've just seen some crazy prices for the Metallica signature guitars (James old explorers seem to fetch a prety decent price) and maybe that was skewing my opinion.

    EDIT: Sorry to derail this thread haha, it's truly an awesome guitar man, and very nice amp collection!
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    He's asked us not to talk about "the incident".
     
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  18. narad

    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    Guuuyyyyss.... it gets worse...

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    Joke's on me though when we're all using digital stuff 3 years from now...
     
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    Is your plan to daisy chain all those bad boys and summon Godzilla?
     

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