How to get a good doom tone(Sabbath, Church of Misery, etc)

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  1. oracles

    oracles Australian in Canada

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    I would absolutely caution against Hovercrafts. Niall buys Jet City amps and then haphazardly mods them to create these. Internally they're COVERED in goop, and Niall isn't exactly renowned for his customer service after he's gotten your money. These are basically ticking time bombs as far as reliability goes.
     
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    sleewell SS.org Regular

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    I've owned the 20 watter. Sounded good.

    What does he do to make a jet city thump like that? Was fuzzy too, no pedal needed.

    Didnt know all that other stuff but I dont dispute amp builders can be shady... cough cough Cameron cough lol

    I think yob uses them or at least did a while back. I dig a few of their songs.
     
  3. Elric

    Elric SS.org Regular

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    Have a Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh Supreme, that is my Doom machine. It’s a modified Muff circuit. Lots of fun Doom fuzzes to pick from... The Rat is actually useful with an amp that already has some grit.

    For Sabbath, Treble Boosters are an essential part of that sound.

    One fun thing about the genre is that is definitely a “whatever works” kind of thing.
     
  4. USMarine75

    USMarine75 The man who is tired of the anus is tired of life Contributor

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    Wow good to know... thanks. He’s the ProTone of amps then lol.
     
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  5. bloodjunkie

    bloodjunkie SS.org Regular

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    Great to know, I just bought one yesterday along with a cry baby classic!

    The Black Arts Pharaoh looks great but I can’t find one for sale in Canada and I’m worried about getting killed in customs fees... will keep my eye out.
     
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    wheresthefbomb SS.org Regular

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    You might consider checking out some of Earthquaker Devices' offerings, they also make a lot of good fuzz options for heavy music and it looks like they sell at retail outlets in Canada.
     
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    oracles Australian in Canada

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    Im in Canada and have a few pedals up on reverb that will get you comfortably into doom territory, most notably a Center Street Electronics Supernaut. Theyre rare, but a dead on Orange OR120 preamp that will do exactly what you're looking for and then some.
     
  8. akinari

    akinari SS.org Regular

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    Try an Earthquaker Devices Monarch or as someone mentioned previously, a Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra. The tones in the songs you posted weren't too Big Muff-esque to me and I think either of those pedals would give you the kind of smooth middy tone I'm hearing.
     
  9. budda

    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    And get a treble booster.
     
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    Corporial Bodies SS.org Regular

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    Have you tried a stone deaf sd50 amp? There hard to come by, but I've tried one and to me they nailed the sabbath/doom sound and really versatile to boot.
     
  11. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Yep. In fact Laney made one that's supposed to be very similar to Iommi's original modded Rangemaster. Iommi also seemed to have a hand in making the Beano Boost as well?
     
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  12. bloodjunkie

    bloodjunkie SS.org Regular

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    Do you guys think a Boss Equalizer(I have one already) is good enough as a treble booster?
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    meeeeh? Treble boosters also act like overdrives so you won't get that compression.
     
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    bloodjunkie SS.org Regular

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    OK thanks, I ordered the Laney Tony Iommi Boost pedal today and the Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh(found one in Canada) yesterday.

    By the way would the correct pedal running order be:

    tuner-->wah-->Rat-->Pharaoh-->TI boost-->delay.chorus/etc.?
     
  15. budda

    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    Experiment. I think doomy tones will mostly be the dirt with optional reverb and delay.
     
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    Shask SS.org Regular

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    Put a DOD Boneshaker pedal in front of anything, lol.

    I swear, whenever I try to use this pedal in front of a distorted amp as a boost, it always comes out sounding fat and fuzzy like old Sabbath.
     
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    Just to hit home the point that how you're using your tools is as important as the tools you're using, here's Electric Wizard through a Peavey Rage 158 I got at Value Village yesterday for $10. No pedals, just everything dimed.

     
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    Necky379 SS.org Regular

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    Can confirm. Great idea.
     
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    I've always gone for volume over gain (channel volume dimed, gain around noon) and rolled the tone knob down around 1-2 on my guitar.
     
  20. Meldville

    Meldville LORD OF ALL FEVERS AND PLAGUES

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    I highly recommend Black Arts Toneworks for dirt pedals in a pedal/clean(ish) amp setup. Mark has a diverse range of pedals that do everything from muff tones to more Velcro-esque fuzz to fully blown the fuck out sounds.
    I used the Quantum Mystic into an Ampeg V4 for the first two Khemmis albums. It’s a magnificent pedal. You can always hit the front of it with an OD to tighten it up a bit if you want.
     

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