How do you justify your purchases to yourself

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  1. MistaSnowman

    MistaSnowman Play It LOUD!!!

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    if you pay for it, then it's justified!!!
     
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    macky SS.org Regular

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    As a degenerate gambler I agree with this 10000000%
     
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    Marked Man SS.org Regular

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    It's simple:

    I link my credit card to whichever site so that I don't have to find it when the times comes. Once I see something I like at a great street price, I click "Buy Now", and it shows up at my house!

    Life is too short for guilt.

    :fawk:
     
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    macky SS.org Regular

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    For those who choose not to delve to my level of degeneracy, 18mo 0% APR balance transfers are your ticket as long as you can swing the payments. That's what I did before I could legitimately dump illiquid stonks on your favorite aging rock and porn stars. Yes, all taxes paid.
     
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  5. josh1

    josh1 SS.org Regular

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    I can't. I'm down to one working guitar, an Ibanez S series that my wife bought me. I've sold everything else I had. I recently moved to another state and have plugged it in literally once.

    I found a new job and have been thinking about getting a headless guitar again though. Definitely won't be spending all my money on guitars again. I can't afford it if I'm not playing with anyone or anywhere.
     
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    If you have money, then why the fuck not sire?
     
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    Estilo SS.org Regular

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    Where I live, our local currency isn't worth a lot and we're at the mercy of foreign hot money flows. Time has taught me leaving too much in liquid cash isn't wise, but I'm not comfortable putting my life savings all in securities. I've barely lost money on gear I've bought.

    And it makes me happy I guess so that counts for something.
     
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  8. narad

    narad Progressive metal and politics

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  9. High Plains Drifter

    High Plains Drifter ... drifting...

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    I didn't click the link but generally if I have to really try hard to justify it then it's probably money best spent elsewhere... at least for the time being. Going from being an unmarried renter to a married homeowner definitely changed my priorities. It became a lot less about "me" and "fun" and more about "us" and "necessary".
     
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    gnoll SS.org Regular

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    I think striving to be altruistic is great, giving to charities and trying to make things better for others. And I think it's also good to not completely neglect ourselves. We should probably try to find some sort of reasonable balance between spending on ourselves and trying to help others. And of course, everybody's financial situation is different, and that affects our ability to donate.

    And then for the money we do spend on ourselves, it's probably good to think a bit about it. What does this do for me, does this really give me that much joy? Can I spend the money better elsewhere?

    I find that with gear, it's mostly the purchase that feels good. Having things is not as much fun as acquiring things. Things take up space, cost money and there's not that much practical advantage to me having many different amps, pedals and guitars. And knowing that, acquiring things also becomes less fun. So I try to not buy so much stuff. Typically I'd rather spend money on things that allow me to do/experience things that I can't right now. Another amp doesn't let me do much that I can't already do. And if I feel that I don't need the money myself I would gladly give it to a charity I trust to do good with it.
     
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  12. evade

    evade enthusiast

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    Buying used most of the time and new some of the time.

    Profits from used gear goes to funding new gear. Have been flipping guitars for 2-3 years now by buying locally.

    Almost impossible to make the money back selling used new gear, so have to be cautious by buying new guitars. (Making sure it's something to keep for awhile.)

    Also helps that it's the only luxury that's indulged.
     
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    Ive gotten caught up in the buy-sell-rebuy trap more times than I'd care to admit. It's kind of short sighted to sell something just because you get bored of it in the moment. At the time, I would think "I'm sooo over this gear, time to move on." Then a couple years go by, and all of a sudden its relevant to me again.
     
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    Ive gotten caught up in the buy-sell-rebuy trap more times than I'd care to admit. It's kind of short sighted to sell something just because you get bored of it in the moment. At the time, I would think "I'm sooo over this gear, time to move on." Then a couple years go by, and all of a sudden its relevant to me again.
     
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    I usually only pull the trigger on something if its a really good deal. I have like 3 or 4 guitars I'm after that all have a wife approved reason for me to get them but I always need a little push.

    I sold my full band rig and other small parts of gear years ago when band broke up and i needed to fund a car repair. i desperately miss some of those items and hope I never have to make that choice again.

    Luckily I put a good ding and a headstock crack into my fav player Les Paul so I will never have to sell it as the resale will be garbage on it.
     
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    High Plains Drifter ... drifting...

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    Most of my guitar purchases are sight unseen so the way that I approach a potential addition...

    First it has to be a guitar that possesses something unique... something that I really dig spec-wise but that brings a new flavor into the family. Then I view as many demos and reviews as I can find. I generally wait for a while to see if the GAS passes although that's hard to do when the listing shows "only one". It's a huge plus if I can see pictures of the actual instrument as opposed to stock photos but I just have to cross my fingers if I have no choice.

    Then when it comes time to order up, I make sure that I'm 100% aware of the seller's return policy. I absolutely won't buy anything that I can't return. I also make sure to account for the approximate return shipping charge in the event that I don't jive with the purchase.

    When it arrives, I try to inspect it in detail and play it as much as I can asap. Within a day/ a few days, I pretty much know if it's a keeper.

    After the honeymoon is over...

    Months or years after purchasing a guitar, I sometimes go thru that phase that many of us do... playing it less and less, allowing it to collect dust, feeling it uninspiring, or allowing another guitar to come into the family that subsequently pushes that one particular guitar further into the shadows. When that happens then I retire that guitar into the overflow room... still accessible but out of sight/ out of mind. Then I just wait it out for a while to see how much I miss it. If I don't miss it much or at all for quite a length of time, then I make the decision to let it go... the exception being a guitar that holds sentimental value, or that I feel I won't get much money for, or that simply has some unique attribute that makes it too hard to part with.

    And finally... Once that guitar sells, I try not to immediately start looking for another one to replace it with but that's just because at this point, I'm trying to downsize.
     
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    If you want it and can afford it get it. I know I would like 1 more guitar so that I have one set for Drop tunings and 1 set for open tunings. Then I'll get a 4 or 5 string bass and I'm done. I already have a good enough amp.
     
  18. manu80

    manu80 Jackson for life !

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    I love how you guys are pushing him in the right(?) direction !!! guess you're like 99.9 % like us here !
    I love gear. Share, tweak, modify, look at it, dream, discover..... so I wanna try a lot despite my basic level. at least you'll know what you like or not ! Still it became a bit of an addiction for a certain period

    I had 16 guitars last year. We moved, some makeover to do, so i sold 10. I regret only 2.
    And finally i kept all the jackson because i love this brand and decided to stay with that as a collection. I had maybe 50 guitars in my hands in the last 5 years, strandberg, prs, mayo, epi, gibson, greco etc etc.. Some I liked, some not. But now i know what I don't need/like anymore

    But the essential never put in jeopardy the couple live financially. I save for my kid, i pay the rent. I only buy some comics or gear. I stopped model kits.....Clothes when I need to....As long as you can live decently without sacrificing a lot, well... go for it ! People have 4 cars, sneakers, well to each his guilty pleasure !!!!! enjoy life. Especially right now.....We're more into that way of living than our parents i guess who were more about House/car and keeping money in case of "you never know".....

    My only concern( we're not at the shrink, I know) but when i lost my dad 2 years ago, cleaning the house etc, made me think a lot about the need of keeping / piling up things...and the fact that "does playing 2h a months justify having 7 guitars and 2 amps ??.... but well the pleasure to tweak, have some stuff you wanted as a kid in guitar world magazine that were unfindable or unaffordable back in the day wins over it !
    Life is short, enjoy it, really. Buy an epi. If you like it, it will be a great guitar in a way !

    Sorry for the long post......

    note: Thank you guys for being able to share on those kind topic in simplicity and a fun way. It's cool. Love this place.
     
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  19. Demiurge

    Demiurge Intrepid Jackass

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    That's a grim thought about the accumulation of things that's I've also had myself. I'm at peace with it, though. Everybody's gonna leave a household of crap behind- it's unavoidable. Leaving behind a pile of music gear is cool, though: it's easier to evaluate and therefore sell or split-up for the estate than a collection of stamps or baseball cards. It's also a meaningful, personal item for whomever inherits it. "I remember Uncle Demiurge using this guitar to play his shitty music through the years. It brings me comfort to play it, and helps me forget about the hilarious way in which he died."
     
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  20. Musiscience

    Musiscience Hail the Ibbyborn!

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    Buddhist wisdom teaches that you can't truly help others be happy and peaceful if you are not happy and peaceful yourself.

    Guitars helps in making me peaceful and happy, therefore I have a better chance at spreading it around me.

    Still works as effective altruism even if indirectly :lol: . I can even argue that treating people with kindness and dignity goes further than physical ressources.

    Bottom line: treat yourself, buy the guitar.
     
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