HD500X.. EQ's in front or behind amp?

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  1. WhoThenNow7

    WhoThenNow7 SS.org Regular

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    Using a POD HD500X for example.. I never messed much with EQ's, but am wanting to learn to get the best possible tone. I don't really notice anything when I put some EQ's in front of the amp, and they sound kind of "bad" when behind it.

    How are you guys setting up your rigs?
     
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    I have a 6 band eq in the loop in my dual rec and on my kemper, I use a 6 band eq in the loop for the splawn nitro. Night and day as far sounds go, you need to play around the actual eq settings for a while then just see what you like best. Also, not all amps benefit from an eq, sometimes it just sounds worse.
     
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    Sephael Divine Paradøx Contributor

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    EQ in front can be used to shape the tone or as a boost, in the loop they shape the tone. No place is down right best, it all depends on the tone you are after and everything else in your chain.
     
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    Alex Kenivel Stunt Guitar

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    In my hd500x I run a red comp and a screamer in front of the amp. They have their own eq'ing properties and act as a gain stage. Behind the amp I run 2 eqs I couldn't name as I'm not at home. Sounds lovely.
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys, I'll just figure out what sound I like best with them!
     
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    VBCheeseGrater not quite a shredder

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    Another point to mention, at least in the real world (non digital but i recall the pod EQs behave the same), an EQ post amp will affect your overall volume more, while an EQ pre-amp will not affect volume much at all. That's why guys like to use an EQ in the loop of an amp if they need a solo boost. Up front, it won't give that volume boost needed for solos (unless it's a clean tone, then EQ placement matters a bit less)
     
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    It takes a LOT of fiddling around with to find the best uses for eq's. I dont usually put an eq in front, but I have one patch with a treadplate pre/SLO OD pre that uses a eq in front to emphasize the low end. The new global eq is pretty damn awesome too.

    For live use, like VBCheeseGrater said, an EQ in the loop with a flat response but a boost in drive can be really useful for a solo boost.
     
  8. All_¥our_Bass

    All_¥our_Bass Deathly Chuuni

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    I do both. But with pedals since my amp has no distortion of its own.
    Signal is:
    Guitar > Eq1 > Dirt Box > Eq2 > Amp

    Eq1 is boosty. It's set to kill muddy lows, give a high-mid/low-treble boost, maybe some extra mids-it depends on which dirt box I'm using. Eq2 has a narrow scoop, and sometimes boosted lows.

    This can be done on an amp with a loop as well:
    Guitar > Eq1 > Amp In
    Loop Out > Eq2 > Loop In

    You do A LOT of shaping and voicing with your dirt tone that you really can't with only one eq.

    The two eq pedals in question are both Boss GE-7s.
     
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    Thanks for drawing out how the set-ups are! I know it's all subjective and I'm going to have to find what sounds best for me, but it's a good place to start; and to see what sounds I like the most.
     

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