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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by The Atomic Ass, Mar 16, 2009.
We're not talking about what John Moses Browning WISHES he created.
Because of ammo prices, I bought one of these...
Full-size Glocks and some 1911's have rails. Problem solved.
Also, a 9mm is not a good defense round IMO. Such a high velocity round. If you miss, it may leave the house. So to speak.
Anyone who has an ND with a Glock shouldn't be handling a firearm, of any description.
This has to be the dumbest gun related post I have ever read on any forum in my life.
Edit I see you later blamed it on operator error. Apologies.
well I`m in a hurry when I come through the forums,got to get though so i an get back to practicing.... limited time
but a lot of people, yes even cops, can`t keep their damn finger out of the trigger guard,I knew of a lot of incidents that never made the public,one where an officer "accidently" shot his wife in the butt...
I helped for a while on the range and with qualifying *shudders* never again....
The easiest part of gun handling is keeping the trigger finger straight.
No .357 Sig?
nope I suck at mspaint.....
Hey Chris, I wanted to pick your brain for a minute and possibly get some suggestions since you really know your stuff on guns. I'm still in the market for something for home defense and for target shooting. I was originally stoked for buying a shotgun, but I am open to buying a handgun now as well. My budget is $200 (not including ammo, and targets, I may bump it up to $250 if need be) and I'm looking for something that looks cool, decent enough stopping power to put an attacker down, and is made for a novice. I figure that this would be a toughie due to the low budget, but I'm really with my back to the wall on the price due to fixing the car/paying bills/etc.
So while I'm still open to getting a shotgun, I'm really looking more at a handgun. Something that isn't clumsy when trying to get to it in a hurry, loads up quickly and efficiently, and is dead accurate.
What are your suggestions?
There isn't a handgun I can suggest in good conscience that'll fit your budget. You MIGHT be able to find a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 that's close to your budget, but I doubt it with the current climate.
We've talked about this before
I've been watching 870s and 500s going for $350 in shit condition lately, whereas a few months ago it wasn't unusual to find one for under $200.
The HR Pardner Pump is an 870 clone, albeit a lot cheaper. Gander Mountain had them listed for $230.
HR Pardner Pump Synthetic Shotgun - Gander Mountain
I wouldn't be against suggesting you find one used, as long as you take a flashlight with you. Check the inside of the barrel for ANY imperfections. It's smoothbore, just like the 870, so the inside of the barrel should be just that...smmmoooooooottthhh. If they kept it dirty, and never cleaned it it'll show some pitting, and in the worst cases a crack or two. I'm sure HR isn't using the same quality metal for their barrels as Remington (who, honestly, have gone downhill since Freedom Group took over).
I wish I could give you a good answer, but for $200, you won't find much, if anything. If you do find something, let me know (re-add my on facebook), and I'll give you my honest opinion on it (as un-biased as possible.).
Hell, I used to be a strict 1911, 870 and ar15 guy. I now carry a Glock, shoot an AK and am hunting for a Fulton M14/Springfield M1A and Benelli M2
In the interest of disclosure: My AK is for sale.
Double stack 1911
I'll take 15 rounds of .45 ACP over 15 rounds of 9mm anyday.
Eh, the 1911 is a great design...until you start fucking with it (ie double stack).
Just like a Glock. A Glock doesn't malfunction till the day you put a non-Glock part in it.
If I get another .45acp, it'll be a Glock 21, or an HK45. Probably a Glock. Unless of course someone hands me a Kimber, but I'm perfectly happy with my Colt-built-under-another-name-by-foreigners M1911A1.
Yeah I have to re-add you since I deleted my old account. How about a basic .22 like this 1911?:
Chiappa 1911-22 SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL, 22LR 10 RNDS, BLACK - Impact Guns
I'll probably have to spring for clips/ammo/targets/classes/etc., but I'm pretty sure I can afford it. Now to get my cousin to agree to let me buy one since it's her and her family's house and they are pretty anti-gun. Fuck it, I'll just buy it on the d/l and keep it hidden until needed.
Yeah, I wish I would have gotten a normal 1911. Think its hard to find AR mags? They're the most common rifle in America. You can count the double stack 1911s on one hand. I was just showing that you can have the same capacity as a glock in a good pistol, I mean 1911.
EDIT: Also, from seeing most people at the range, it doesn't matter if they're shooting 9mm, .45 acp, .40 S&W they can barely hit the target, let alone if they were trying to shoot someone attacking them.