guitarist who are actually good, but get a bad wrap

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  1. HeHasTheJazzHands

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    It's why Stricken is one of my favorite solos. It's 35 seconds long, but no single note goes to waste.
     
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    Jason Hook is quite good, just his band FFDP is so cringeworthy.
     
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    Yooooo, which album should I start with? Just from the beginning? Are there any you particularly recommend live or studio.

    Yeah they write catchy light metal for what it’s worth. They played the ultimate pro gamer move, but your own guitar company = infinite signature models. I’m glad they found a crazy level of success, but their “shtick” isn’t for me.
     
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    I'll comment on the dragonforce thing and say that Sam actually is a pretty sloppy player cause from what I know he doesn't care about guitars and practicing that much. He plays as a means to write songs and be in a band. He didn't even know what a signature guitar was until Ibanez asked him to design one in 2007. That being said, when he's "in the zone", or recording something, he's always comes up with insane stuff, especially on the newer albums.
     
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    Chris Motherfucking Holmes!!!!
     
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    He should quit playing metal and start his true calling


    bluegrass

     
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    Continuum is his strongest from start to finish in my opinion, and then Battle Studies after that. Room for Squares first four songs were all big hits in their day as well, but there's peaks and valleys on there where its four bangers back to back, then three I'm just meh'd by.
     
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    The thing that sucks about him and that everyone seems to be in agreement that he's a damn good guitarist, songwriter, and had a unique, monstrous sound. It was his demons and addictions that fucked up his reputation. Well, that and his recent songs with his terrible vocals.
     
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    Yeah, what the heck happened? He got sober and the music went bad. Same happens to a lot of bands, like Metallica for example. Alcohol and drugs really does seem to make better music.
     
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    Its happened what happens to most of us. He got Old and stayed in the past... meaning he is somehow outdated on what a Song should be. Also a life of excess will collect further down the road. And it collected from him.

    I only saw him once during the Kill Fuck Die Tour... always missed WASP for whatever reason but that Tour it was on a venue like 2 min walking from my house and I was there. I saw a roadie getting him from the Tour Bus and he had to grab him since he could barely walk. Me and others around though...damn he is totally wasted. 30-45 min later he was a fucking Animal on top of that stage.
     
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    Going off the Jim Root/Mick Thompson point, Psychosocial is one of the most well-done songs I've ever heard and both of their solos are so perfectly on point for what that song needed. They can play, the songs just don't need it. Their riffs and leads tend to speak enough, although I can think of a few places on We Are Not Your Kind where Jim could've let loose a little rather than having more vocals.
     
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    I dunno whether or not my favorite guitarists go to Subway, so I have no idea if they get bad wraps.

    Yngwie had a pretty bad experience with doughnuts if I remember correctly. Dunno if he deserved that, I mean, I know he's a dick, but as a guitarist, he's got some talent.
     
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    CC Deville. Flame away.
     
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    No bullshit, Nothin' But A Good Time and the solo to Every Rose Has Its Thorn kick ass.

    I will say though that I do get some Slash vibes from the Every Rose solo though.
     
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    Bad rep?

    Easy. Nuno.

    99% of the world knows him as "that other dude" playing guitar in More Than Words. Funny enough, in the radio version of the song they even cut out the small tapping run at the end of the track, so there is not even a tiny reference of what the dude is capable of.

    Aside from guitar centered places like in here, if I told anyone on the street: "Remember Extreme? Those dudes with the cheesy acoustic ballad that your first girlfriend always listened to back in the days? Yeah. The guitar player in there is one of the most fluid, technical and inventive dudes that mainstream Rock music has ever seen." Well.
     
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    Travis Meeks from Days of the New comes to mind. Early on, his band caught a lot of shit for the 'yarling' and AiC comparisons but considering he recorded the first album when he was 17 is pretty impressive. The radio singles don't do his true playing and composition skills justice, in my opinion.

    As for Zakk Wylde, I saw him on two occasions doing acoustic sets in the mid 90s. Once with Pride and Glory and the other time solo, and he he was very restrained in his pentatonics. This was prior to his 'roided up biker gang gimmick. After seeing him perform in this stripped down setting, his playing really shined. Still a fan of all his work with Ozzy but he lost me with BLS. Also makes me cringe hearing him in interviews put on his "bad ass persona," especially after personally speaking to him in a normal setting after both shows. Thankfully, he's mostly dialed it back these days after his health scare.
     
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    Really Because Gary is the weakest Link on that band for sure :) Also More Than Words is such a Cheesey tune. Glad from them that it become a Huge Hit but its freaking Cheesy
     
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    Yeah, I can dig a cool ballad, but More Than Words is super trash.
     
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    Nothin but a Good Time was the first "real" song I learned (just the rhythm part) . It was the end of 1989 and I'd just picked up a guitar and finally didn't have to learn an more Ode to Joy or anything like that.

    I really love the solo CC does on Give me Somthing to Believe In though. That's a great solo and on that guitar.





    And another few guys are Tom Keifer from Cinderalla, Blackie Lawless from W.A.S.P. , and Dave "the snake: Sabo from Skid Row. So many incredible players outta the 80's. Just ton's of great stuff going on there. The 80's gets a lot of shit but it really was one of the best decades. People did what the hell they wanted. It was termed the decade of decadence for good reason. THe 80's was the decade of guitar god's and virtuoso's everwhere and guitar was in it's prime!


    Kramer porn!

     
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    He's a player who's really distinctive and plays his way. That doesn't get as much respect as it should. I love players where I know who it is immediately, and being a little rough around the edges, or having distinct note choices, is a big part of that normally.
     
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