Guitar World Announce their Guitarist of the Decade as voted for by the readers

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  1. Metropolis

    Metropolis SS.org Regular

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    Let's just call them "a nervous system which is more capable doing some things more successfully". You don't have to get all out sjw over facts because they may offend you.
     
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    prlgmnr ...that kind of idea

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    ah yes, "facts"
     
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    Metropolis SS.org Regular

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    I would disagree this. She's been previously known from an all female Iron Maiden cover band... and it would be stupid to say that looks don't matter in her case, when it obviously does.

    And guitar playing being a highly physical act... I don't know what's the fuss about saying it like that. Music isn't sports and it involves lot of other traits too, but it's still how it is.
     
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    I mean, it ain't shot put. :lol:
     
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    efiltsohg SS.org Regular

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    for you maybe
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    While I'm sure there are people who, for physical reasons, cannot play guitar, I highly doubt there is a meaningful divide based primarily on gender.

    While women have on average 30% less skeletal muscle (upper body), is that conceivably enough to make a low impact physical activity like guitar difficult for an average, healthy person?
     
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    i was just making a half assed movie reference

     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Gotcha. I haven't seen that movie since it was in theaters. :lol:
     
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    Probably not too much, but you can sometimes hear lack of strength in vibrato and picking technique along female players, generally they play so much differently. Couple of I've listened and watched recently; Lari Basilio, really delicate and classy sounding fusion style with nice phrasing and all that, but just lacking in vibrato. Same goes with Sarah Longfield, tapping for days but there is just no feel, something is just missing. What I'm trying to say that these players often choose that kind of playing style partly because of their physique.
     
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    Eh, doesn't really track to me.

    There are plenty of players of all stripes that have mediocre vibrato, and plenty that simply don't engage vibrato the same way.

    It just sounds like you're reaching for a "scientific" reason to an issue that's purely emotional, whether that's your intent or not.

    I'm not calling you sexist. I just don't think you have this right. :)
     
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    Vyn Not a Sparkly Vampire

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    I call bullshit on this. In standard tuning, I can only really bend/vibrato on 9s, maybe 10s on a good day, yet an ex girlfriend played 11s all-day everyday. Gender has fuck all to do with that.
     
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    There have been a couple of youtube videos exploring this. If those are to be beleved as accurate, then this idea is plausibly correct. On the other hand, it might be audible differences in vibrato due to cultural reasons. But, at any rate, there is no data proving that female player's vibrato reaches as wide as the typical male's, and there is a ton of anecdotal evidence and the logical conclusions drawn from basical physiological data that such is the case.

    That's not to say that narrower vibrato is a negative thing, either. There are plenty of female guitarists who play perfectly.

    TL;DR - he might not be right, but he's probably not wrong...
     
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    Yeah, I'm gonna have to stop you right there. :rofl:
     
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    It is sexist. I'm pretty sure I would be fired or at least talkedto by HR if I spewed what was said at work.

    The lack of data proving something relatively specific does not disprove it. If you have any evidence to prove that women vibrato on average is less wide and you can prove it is due to physiological differences, please present it. Otherwise you are just pushing conspiracy
     
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    I stand by what I said. I didn't know her from that other band, and I have zero interest in her looks. That cover isn't presenting her as a sex object, even if you've personally decided that she's attractive.
     
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    What happened to this thread
     
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    Someone said something stupid and people chose to engage it seriously
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Very rarely does talking about women on the internet end well.
     
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    Nowadays it ends being offended. Meaning that there is no data about it doesn't mean that this phenomenon doesn't exist, because it's in the ears of a listener. Which may not again have too much to do with a players gender. Sometimes I just think why there is not just as good female players and why they generally don't have the same touch to an instrument.

    That's one case... different styles, guitars etc. maybe? I wouldn't play on 11's in standard tuning and prefer 9's or 10's.

    Troy Grady should do a scientific as possible video about playing mechanics between similar style players of different gender. But he would still end up called a sexist motherfucker :fawk:

    I've seen videos about where people tried to guess players gender only by listening them.
     
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