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Discussion in 'Standard Guitars' started by Alex79, Aug 1, 2019.
Guys, just have fun with it™. Gibson gonna Gibson.
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Probably not for this thread however holy shit I wish more manufacturers thought about sustainable design and what happens to the product at the end of its life cycle rather than going “it’s let the factory, not our problem anymore, someone else can dispose of it.”
If properly cared for there's no reason any guitar, even one as overly complex as this, can't last many decades.
Guitars being made of wood (usually), they are by definition pretty green friendly. The worst part of it is, buying guitars built 20K km from where you live.
Seeing how non wood guitars gain traction and how wood supplies can become an issue, at some point the big companies will likely switch to composite as well. That might make them less green, especially if said composites include oil derivatives.
Can someone start a thread about monster truck shows not being green enough, my outrage boner about Gibson throwing away garbage is fading.
My Gibson Robot V is still one of my fav guitars. Plays like a dream and the 496/500 pickups are one of the most underrated sets out there.
Come at me, bros.
Is it one of the limiteds with trapezoid inlays and the cf pickguard? Those were badass.
Trapezoids but no pickguard. Kind of interested to see that model now.
I can't seem to find a picture. It was either an MF or Sam Ash limited that came out with the second generation Robot SGs. Come to think of it, it might have had dots. Hmmm. Maybe I'm just stroking out.
Searches only led me to the Gibson LPX... totally would try it if there were any out there.
Speaking of crazy Gibsons like the Firebird X... Ever seen the Gibson LP Push Tone (2008 GTM)? Basically a LP with pickups you can pop out (IIRC held in by magnets and one quick-connect cable):
Those things were kinda cool. I was able to play one.
The system worked very well, and it didn't really add much perceived weight, it is an LP after all. Still felt like some kind of prototype though, not a ton of refinement.
I think they needed to partner up with SD or DiMarzio and offer a bunch of ready-made sets to swap out.
Remember the HD6?
If you put the time in you could do some really cool stuff. Way ahead of the curve. With the amount of performance automation that folks want now, this was a baked in solution.
I also thought it was something of a continuation of Les' ideas that became the Les Paul Recording.
A) forgot all about that model
B) It's gorgeous and I want one
I mean, only Gibson makes crazy ('failed') guitars like the Robot, Firebird X, HD6, and Recording...
I had one of those even wackier Roland G707s with box. Thing was so awful it was good. Shouldn't have sold that one.
Taylor guitars are big on environmental protection and sustainable forestry.
The Warwick factory is pretty green from what saw
Every US manufacturer has a process to destroy guitars that aren't fit for sale to ensure they don't hit the streets and damage their brand. I have a pile of scrap PRS parts, this is just a few of them. You can see how far down the manufacturing process some of them get before being destroyed. Both those headstocks have serial numbers.
I think the reason they are destroyed is because the public will see how close the rejects are to the store shelve units
A lot of people were especially irritated that all the hardware/electronics/pickups etc were still on the guitars. People wanted them salvaged, which would have been pointless since all of that hardware was proprietary and useless outside of the Firebird X.
These guitars weren't defective, they just didn't sell well and they had boatloads of left overs. PRS, Kiesel, *insert any brand here* tends to destroy the guitars when they fail to meet guidelines. These firebirds were years old and in bulk. They just needed them gone.
I'm still in the camp that thinks the guitar was a bad idea and they shouldn't have made so many, and the loss of materials is a shame, but I also realize that the ship has sailed and they're either going to rot in Gibson's closet or get crushed down to make room for the next mistake Gibson will make.
As an aside, I kind of like the way that PRS looks headless. lol Hell, I'd really like a PRS in general. That's one brand of guitar I never owned, but have played and loved.
Don't forget that destroying these guitars allows Gibson to reduce it's inventory holding, which is a tax write off and will help make the new management's performance look better to the owners and creditors.