Now as I am taking the 8 string a lot more serious than bass (better not tell my tutors!) I have been listening to a lot more jazz guitarists, like actually listening to what they are doing. I recently borrowed Pat Martino - Live at Yoshis from an organist friend of mine. I am really interested in organ trios but had never heard this one before and as for Pat, I have only heard a select few tracks of his. But WOW! He learnt to play that well twice, I hope I can do it once. I checked out his website which has a few scores and transcriptions to download, so I am also definately doing his version of Oleo and Mac Tough. On further reading on his site I found this!? Read it! What are your thoughts on this concept? To me as someone who has an analytical/organised way of thinking, it really clicked and made sense to me...Sucha simple idea. Not sure he is a genius, but it makes a lot of sense...once you have finished that, read Nature of the guitar...some REALLY unusual concepts for learning guitar and I have only scraped on it an hour ago. Gonna give it a good read later in the week when I don't have Lee Konitz heads to learn for lesson!