FRFR for insane volumes. Behringer?

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  1. Quitty

    Quitty Hates 'mojo'

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    Well, it would seem the Kemper isn't jiving with my amp head and cab - some profiles work great right out of the box, some really don't.
    Being the critical, cork-sniffing, dog-whistle-hearing ass that i am, it was kinda foolish to think otherwise, in retrospect.

    I'm thinking of selling my amp (should net me about 1000$, locally) and going FRFR -
    I need something loud. Think 100W tube loud.
    I'm still a cheap bastard and have heard some good stuff about Behringer, but i'm not about to do the same mistake twice and get something underwhelming hoping it'll cut it.

    What are your thoughts? Where's the VFM sweet-spot in FRFRs?
    Sound quality and volume only.
    No concern for weight. Will consider passive + PA if it's cheaper.

    Any ideas? Horror stories?
     
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    Baelzebeard Grinder of strings

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    I would recco. Mackie, QSC, or Electro-voice. Behringer would be on the absolute bottom of my list
     
  3. WhiteWalls

    WhiteWalls SS.org Regular

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    What's your budget exactly?
     
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    Darren James SS.org Regular

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    Edit: read what you were asking and realized I misinterpreted what was being asked.
     
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    Genome SS.org Regular

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    I guess if you're thinking Behringer you'll be thinking budget, in which case I should point you to the Alto TS range. Fantastic quality for the price. And plenty loud. I have the TS115a with the Axe.
     
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    Not necessarily budget, more concerned with value for money. I've actually heard some reports lately on newer Behringer stuff actually being good - that's news for me too, which is why i'm asking.
    The budget will likely be whatever i can sell my amp for - so about 1000$. That's not exactly low budget, but i don't think a 1000$ FRFR solution is going to have good value.

    The Altos sound good. Have you compared them with anything else?

    Thanks, guys! Keep the info coming, please!
     
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    athawulf SS.org Regular

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    I have some experience with behringer products, especially during the time that I was young and without much money.

    Their speaker cabinets, power amps, powered speakers were all pretty decent. The only behringer products I had crap out were their mixers- a channel or two would die after a year.
     
  8. Quitty

    Quitty Hates 'mojo'

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    I take it you upgraded eventually? Was the improvement really drastic?
     
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    iron blast Northern Winds

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    go with the Alto TS115A its kick ass
     
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    groverj3 Biologist/Guitarist

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    I second the Altos. I'm new to this FRFR stuff, but my TS112A came in a few days ago and it sounds absolutely awesome. I'm only using a Digitech GSP1101, so I'm sure your Kemper will be amazing with it!
     
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    How loud is it?
    Drummer loud? or DRUMMER LOUD!!!1 ?
    I'd unfortunately need the latter.
     
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    I use a Mackie Hd1221 with my band for practice and live as my monitor and it definitely is loud enough. At practice it's just sitting on the ground like a wedge and gets plenty loud enough to compete with a drummer, guitar and bass. 1200w does the trick.
     
  13. nothingleft09

    nothingleft09 What... the... F@#k!

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    I snagged an Alto TS115A from Guitar Center today for $280 with the 2 year pro coverage on it. Definitely the way to go. Super loud and really clear. And you can get 2 for the price of the Mackie HD series. lol
     
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    my Alto TS115a is infuriatingly quiet and I have no idea why. I just clips way before it gets the volume I need
     
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    xCaptainx Dr Djodson

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    I use the Line 6 L3M. It's 1400w and it's just as loud as our other guitarists 150w 5150II.
     
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    I'm pretty sure a 5150 II is 120 watts man or does he have it modded?
     
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    That looks awesome, and our Line6 distributor is a pleasure to deal with.

    That is pretty expensive, though...
     
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    xCaptainx Dr Djodson

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    There's an L2M option too, which is a bit cheaper. I haven't used them myself.

    Sorry yeah, 120w 5150, my bad!
     
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    Yo_Wattup Kick the Butterfly

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    I have a behringer NU6000 power amp, it is fine for bass but I have no idea how it'd go for guitar. The best thing is the weight. It is LIGHT. You say weight doesn't matter but if you have a 8 or 6U rack like myself, it makes everything easier. I'm not lying when I say that my rack halved in weight when I switched to the behringer. If you are against behringer (read: ignorant/close minded) then I would recommend the peavey IPR range. Specifically the IPR1600, it will be pleeeenty loud enough for any guitar related application. Run the Kemper though that then through your existing cab.... you are now a winner.

    Edit: forgot your after a FRFR setup... disregard that last sentence.
     
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    Playing a Kemper into Behringer FRFR gear is like putting Pinto wheels and tires on a Ferrari. You should consider taking a listen to a pair of QSC K10/12's instead. That or a pair of Mackies.
     

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