Fender now selling Sub-Sonic baritone (27.5'') conversion necks

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  1. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    Hmm.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    A basic spec’d fretted, finished, with nut Warmoth baritone conversion neck is about $300 delivered. It'll be interesting to see how these turn out and what the specs are.
     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    The Warmoth ones are 28.6'' long, vs these which are 27.5''. Though I'm assuming this will be 22-fret vs the Warmoth's 24.
     
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    KnightBrolaire Pointy Gang™

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    ehh I've picked up a pile of warmoth baritone necks with the nut and jumbo stainless frets for like 220$. I don't think these will really occupy the same space as what warmoth offers.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    What is the market other than "longer scale, ready to install, Fender compatible neck" for either product?

    Both are official (one Fender made, one officially licensed), Fender compatible baritone conversion necks for about $300 delivered.

    The $300 price was for a finished (e.g. warrantied) neck.
     
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    My point is that why would people pay more for set specs, when they can get stainless frets or different fret sizes for a cheaper price. Most people I've talked with other than some vintage focused players tend to dislike finished necks.
    It just seems redundant given how most people interested in licensed parts/partscasters already know about Warmoth. If they were significantly undercutting Warmoth then I could see these being way more popular in those circles.
     
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    We're in full agreement then.

    Fender is way late to the party. Though, it would be cool if these get added to the Fender Mod Shop.
     
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    I do think the fact that Warmoth don't offer an option in the 27" ballpark is a big plus for Fender here. Even as someone who often loves 30", there are many cases where I'd consider a 27/27.5" lovely but a 28.625" way too big. I don't know how much of a concern that is to the general baritone building crowd though
     
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    The former is why I agree. There's some people that want the extra length for more tension + 24 frets. And there's others that can't adjust to a 28.6'' scale length. Good to have options.
     
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    to answer the question why someone would buy this over a warmoth?

    simple...people will pay extra for the fender logo on the headstock
     
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    Except that in Europe, Warmoth parts are worth f*ck all. That logo will make a huge difference in resale value. Sad but true.
    Also, where are these necks made? Are they just Fender US compatible?
     
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    Nah it's the same way in the US too.
     
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    I wonder how they scienced this. The warmoth neck works because it's exactly 2 extra frets.
     
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    The price is the same, if anything the Warmoth will usually be more.

    So what are you talking about?

    Eh, over here used Fenders drop value about as quickly.
     
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    By adding 1 fret instead of 2.
     
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    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

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    I thought I fret extra was closer to 27" than 27.5". But either way I vastly prefer 27.5" to the full baritone length for my purposes.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Yeah, it's somewhere right in the middle, but adjusting <.5" across the scale is fairly easy, especially when working with a large bolt-on heel.

    All you have to compensate for really is bridge placement, and even then, given the adjustability of the average bridge you find on Fenders, it's a non-issue.

    Novax used to offer fanned fret conversion necks and all it took was some movement of the bridge saddles to dial in the "in between" scales.
     
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    It baffles me that Warmoth still doesn’t offer a +1 fret baritone conversion neck
     
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    Chances they'll do it now? :lol:
     

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