Fender noob - USA or MIM?

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  1. TaylorMacPhail

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    I never purchased a Fender guitar before and my father was talking to someone after his gig last weekend and the guy was saying that the strats starting with serial number 1 are actually MIM's disguised as USA made. The serial number on this strat buddy is asking $700 (+$50 shipping) from B.C, the other end of the country/continent, is shown in a couple of the pics.

    I am really skeptical and don't want to get sold a MIM obviously. Is this "rumour" a load of BS or what? Thanks for your help.
     

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    Mordacain Formerly 1-watt brigadier

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    Well, I've never heard that MIMs disguised as USA made. I have heard the reverse from a time when the Mexican factory burned down (early Squiers that were made in the US).

    However, that is definitely a US strat. Here's how you can tell:


    • Two point trem, only made for US strats
    • 22 frets, typically only on US strats
    • Fender logo is appropriate, as is made in USA branding
     
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    Big phewf man, thank you kindly!
     
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    Mordacain Formerly 1-watt brigadier

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    I should add, I'm not sure how much US strats go for in Canada, but I wouldn't pay that much sight un-seen. I've had pretty mixed results with used strats, though my last used one was excellent and I regret trading it on occasion.
     
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    Here's 5 more pics he sent me.
     

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    goldsteinat0r Zib Zob Zabbity

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    Not to be that guy, but the tuners are exactly as what came stock on my Mexican that I bought in 2006. Could be an american neck but not an entirely america guitar. :shrug:

    Either way its nice!
     
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    Mordacain Formerly 1-watt brigadier

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    The Ping tuners are standard between the USA and Mexican oddly enough. They're perfectly usable standard tuners, but I recommend an upgrade to locking. The Fender branded locking tuners work just fine in my experience and fit without having to tap any extra holes.
     
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    Haha hey man, I'll take all the info I can get. I'm shopping around locally for some guitars trying to not rush this but I mean, a white creamy strat has been on my want list for a while now and the shipping cost is tiny for me, we are using secure e-Transfer both with CIBC as well so is there really much advantage going local? He said the shipping would be 2-3 days too.
     
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    Mordacain Formerly 1-watt brigadier

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    The advantage going local is being able to play the guitar in question. You can see from the bridge picture that the Low E saddle is out of intonation adjustment (it's as far back as it can go). That could be a problem going forward and is an issue I've run into with older strats.
     
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    I guess I meant strictly price-wise but that is right. I don't know much about guitar hardware (or anything for that matter...who I am I...my balls are itchy) so would that problem be easily fixed via the bridge saddle, bridge, and/or truss rod?
     
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    It really depends on why the Low E is adjusted back that far, could be a bow in the neck that could be fixed or it could mean the trussrod isn't responding anymore and so there is a permanent bow that could get progressively worse over time. That's just the inherent danger in buying guitars used, it just makes it easier to get ripped off when you can't inspect the guitar firsthand.
     
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    Oh um well then lol. I emailed him my concern but other than that idk where to go from here, like what could he realistically do on his end to ensure to me it's fine? Lost cause? :O

    Thanks.
     
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    Can I get this bridge saddle "issue" confirmed from some more members? If it's untrue then it is likely I might pull the trigger and purchase it.
     
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    The son-of-a sold it - CLOSE IT UP mods please
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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