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Discussion in 'Bass Guitar Discussion' started by Bassman1, Jun 22, 2020.
Wow, you are on a shopping spree
Ha! I guess so. Though I should mention, the plan is to A/B them and keep only the winner while returning the rest.
With limited inventory and Covid closures, it seems to be the best way to try out pedals now...
I'm itching to hear the B7K!
Looking forward to see/hear the results
Idiotbox Blower Box. Huge low end and great gain from mild overdrive to almost fuzz like. No clean blend but it cuts fine and preserves low end without it.
I have a B7k Ultra, which sounds amazing, but can be tricky to dial when you switch between basses. I have a habit of getting an awesome sound, then dialing myself out of it. The cab emulator is handy for direct recording too. There is also a Darkglass plugin by Neural DSP, which sounds wicked on synth tracks, 7 string guitar, or bass. It does require iLok though. Similar to that, the Line 6 Helix Native plugin suite has a distortion called Obsidian, which is a definite nod to the Darkglass sound.
I used to work at a major retailer, so have met some of the Darkglass staff. They are seriously great guys!
my all time favorite would have to be the MBD by Damnation Audio. i actually did shit myself when i played it through an svt stack for the first time
The Daring Audio Laser Cannon is really cool. It applies high gain distortion/fuzz to a selectable band of frequencies which gives you the option of leaving the low end clean. The last version of the pedal even allowed selecting between 3 different clipping elements. It’s a less “modern” sound than Darkglass stuff but it can rip pretty hard. Unfortunately they can be hard to find.
The MXR M80 is a good pedal, however I would NOT recommend using the distortion circuit while running the XLR out to front of house.
On the Ultras, anyone tried using 2 together with 2 separate Darkglass IRS active on both blended and if that works?
Just curious as I've never thought of this before. Could use Nollys on one and a different IR on the other?
You mean in parallel? You could totally do that but you’d need to mix the signals back together somehow. Easily done while recording, more of a pain on a pedalboard. The Parallax software actually allows for blending two of the IRs and the results can sound really good. I wish that could be done in the DG suite and saved to the pedals somehow.
Running one cab sim into another would probably not sound so good.
Yeah sorry that is what I meant
Im sure there are cheapo pedals that can split then blend signals back together. Will look into it, could be awesome haha
The Boss LS-2 and the Behringer AB100 are the first ones that come to mind
My Headrush FRFR monitors have 2 inputs.
Could literally do:
Wireless > Tuner > Compressor > Splitter > X Ultra w/ Cab sim >Headrush Input 1
...........................................................> B7K w/ Cab sim >Headrush Input 2
Would have to do it like this because the Darkglass pedals only apply the Cab sim on the XLR output. Unless there is a splitter/buffer pedal that accepts XLR and puts out XLR too?
The Darkglass is the industry standard for the moment, but another honorable mention would be the Tech-21 GED2112-DI, which also splits the signal between clean and grit. This DI pedal sounds a bit more organic, so if you are looking for something more aggressive ala Periphery or Soundgarden's "Outshined", the the Darkglass pedal, or plugin has you covered.
For stage volume, that sounds like a perfectly good solution. But if you need a DI version to front of house you’d need to ask the sound guy to give you two channels and work with him to blend them to your taste - good luck with that unless you’re famous or he’s your friend.
Looking at pedalboard-friendly mixing solutions such as those mentioned above, most work using unbalanced 1/4” connections. That means you’d have to convert the balanced XLR outs down to unbalanced 1/4”, mix them, and put them into another DI to get back to a balanced XLR out. Doable as far as the signal itself is concerned but you risk adding noise with that type of maneuver depending on the building you’re in.
A small mixing board would work super well (I’ve seen some on big bass boards) but would take up a lot of space.
If anyone knows of a small device that can mix two or more balanced signals I’m now super curious.
im hoping something exists haha
I feel like it has to. The Behringer MX400 line mixer is the perfect size and does four unbalanced channels: $24. Seems like someone could do something similar with balanced ins and outs for under $40.
This seems like it could be the kind of obvious utility pedal that would be super easy to design and build but there’s just not quite enough demand for it, so it has to be custom-made for way too much money.
How about those small PA mixer. Like with 4 inputs or so?
ok possibly found something.
Radial mix 2:1 box?
Mix two channels to a single mono output
Individual level controls can be bypassed when not in use
Balanced 1/4″ TRS and XLR inputs
Completely passive, no need for power
Looks small enough to pedal board mount too and is only £128
could then get a cheap Mooer ABY splitter for the start of the chain (they are like £20 or something)
I think this could be killer
Wireless > Tuner > Cali76 > Mooer ABY > Darkglass X Ultra w/IR > Radial 2:1
.........................................................> Darkglass B7K w/dif IR > Radial 2:1
Dude that should do it! The Radial is exactly what I was envisioning. I knew there had to be something like that out there, guess I used the wrong keywords while searching haha.