ESP NAMM 2019 thread

Discussion in 'Sevenstring Guitars' started by HeHasTheJazzHands, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. feraledge

    feraledge Heard the Good News about Maple Fretboards?

    Messages:
    6,412
    Likes Received:
    4,566
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Location:
    Salem, MO
  2. Andromalia

    Andromalia Pardon my french

    Messages:
    7,703
    Likes Received:
    1,473
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Location:
    Paris, France
    A "one of a kind" EII ? that's pretty weird.
     
  3. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

    Messages:
    32,076
    Likes Received:
    13,694
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Location:
    Racine, WI
    DGCL is known for getting one-off prototypes of production guitars, especially ESP/LTD and Schecter.
     
  4. feraledge

    feraledge Heard the Good News about Maple Fretboards?

    Messages:
    6,412
    Likes Received:
    4,566
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Location:
    Salem, MO
    ESP was teasing the other day a “should we bring back the Phoenix?” poll on their IG. I suspect this is a prototype.
     
    AkiraSpectrum likes this.
  5. Zado

    Zado SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    6,470
    Likes Received:
    2,499
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Location:
    Vicenza, ITA
    Fingers crossed for a nitro finish
     
  6. JD27

    JD27 ESP Cult Member

    Messages:
    4,629
    Likes Received:
    2,201
    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2013
    Got a feeling there will be more come summer NAMM. Holy shit though these have gone up by about $500 since they last made them.
     
  7. devastone

    devastone SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    525
    Likes Received:
    113
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    Location:
    Longmont, CO
    Yeah, DCGL used to be an ESP candy store, they seem to be more involved with Schecter now days. FWIW, I live about 45 minutes away and used to make a trip down there quite a bit. Great guys to deal with.
     
  8. TedintheShed

    TedintheShed Retired bassist pretending to play guitar

    Messages:
    781
    Likes Received:
    548
    Joined:
    May 3, 2013
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio

    Its one of the reasons I canceled my KM-7 MKIII Studio- I ordered the guitar same day it was announced but Schecter kept delaying and pushing my order back from the promised date. Meanwhile, custom shop Schecters kept hitting the websites of dealer after dealer like DCGL. I don't at all blame DCGL, but I won't buy a Schecter now.
     
  9. yan12

    yan12 SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    112
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Location:
    usa
    DCGL still is an ESP candy store...lots more in stock than what is online. They have tons of custom shop ESP there and still get tons of prototypes. ESP/Schecter can almost be looked at as twin companies.

    The neck thru Studio KM-7 is discontinued as far as I know. Not many were made. That should be communicated to you as a consumer, but the Studio is not on their website and has not been for a while. Other than the original run of a few they have not made any more AFAIK. Call Jason at DCGL as I bet he can give you more information.

    As for not buying a Schecter product, that is your business. Consumers vote with their wallets and I do the same. But I really don't think Schecter jacked you around as much as it was a matter of not communicating clearly that product was DOA.
     
  10. cardinal

    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

    Messages:
    5,275
    Likes Received:
    2,581
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2007
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    Well Schecter is screwing around with my build. I've been trying to be patient but it's wearing thin. It supposedly was in paint as of February 1 and they said yesterday that they are just waiting for it to come out of paint. Nitro takes a while to gas out and whatever, but I didn't think that they use nitro. A two-part cured paint should not take anywhere near a month to paint gloss black.

    It was supposed to be ready in November and now its late February and it's been getting painted gloss black for a month.
     
  11. yan12

    yan12 SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    112
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2009
    Location:
    usa
    Cardinal, I feel your pain in the wait. Honestly, any guitar due in November is always on the chopping block of time with NAMM right around the corner...why companies promise guitar builds due in Nov-Jan is beyond me as I never see one get done then. Better to not have them rush it and get it out the door is my thought. Chewie has lots going on in the paint department, and although this is not any excuse for them, I think the wait will be worth it. Who did you order it through?
    And if you did a Masterworks level guitar, it won't leave until it is perfect no matter what delivery time was quoted. If Tetsu had to jump in and help with NAMM guitars that could explain why it is taking longer. But dammit I feel the pain as I have been there before.
     
  12. cardinal

    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

    Messages:
    5,275
    Likes Received:
    2,581
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2007
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    NAMM is predictable. Backlog in paint is something that should be obvious.

    I understand delays happen, but I’m extremely frustrated. I have another build going by someone else where he explained that it was delayed because of an unexpected issue with paint and poor weather. Maybe that is what happened here, but no one at Schecter is telling me why this keeps slipping.
     
  13. Zado

    Zado SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    6,470
    Likes Received:
    2,499
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Location:
    Vicenza, ITA
    Wasnt forbidden to nitro paint things in California?
     
  14. xwmucradiox

    xwmucradiox sweep.tap.sweep

    Messages:
    2,126
    Likes Received:
    454
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Location:
    Maryland
    California has very strict pollution regulations. Its not that you cant spray nitrocellulose, its that you need a very elaborate air filtering system to meet the requirements for air going back into the environment and the cost of that kind of system keeps small manufacturers or custom shops from spraying nitrocellulose.
     
    Solodini likes this.
  15. cardinal

    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

    Messages:
    5,275
    Likes Received:
    2,581
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2007
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    I seriously doubt that schecter sprayed my guitar with Nitro and has been waiting a month for it to gas out enough to buff. I assume they use a cured finish that would be done in half a day if they would kindly get around to finishing a guitar that was supposed to be completed in November and has been “in paint” since at least early Feb.

    Sorry for derailing the ESP thread. I LOVE the looks of the USA M7FR.
     
  16. jwoods986

    jwoods986 SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    25
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2004
    Looks like ESP/LTD just had a big price increase from yesterday to today ($100-200 for unchanged models). A couple examples I've noticed so far:
    KH602 Purple Sparkle - $1099 to 1199
    KH602 Black - $899 to 1099
    Lynch Kami IV - $1199 to 1299
    Hanneman JH600 - $999 to 1199
     
    Flappydoodle likes this.
  17. NosralTserrof

    NosralTserrof SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    128
    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2011
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Has any one on here picked up a B-1005SE? I realize this is the guitar portion of the forum but I've found *nothing* online about these guys.
     
  18. D-EJ915

    D-EJ915 Forum MVP

    Messages:
    34,897
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2005
    Location:
    USA
    I bought one of those when they came out originally here in the US and sent it back. I really love firebirds and how they play but something about the Phoenix just didn't feel right which sucked because they look really cool.
     
  19. NickBen

    NickBen SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    30
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2007
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ordered the purple satin Carpenter...too clean!
     
    setsuna7, Masoo2, ImNotAhab and 5 others like this.
  20. narad

    narad Owned a Zune

    Messages:
    7,878
    Likes Received:
    6,881
    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Location:
    Tokyo
    This just started poppin up here in Tokyo. I dig the subtle straight line additions on the body:

    [​IMG]
     
    cardinal, setsuna7, Tisca and 8 others like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.