Epiphone 2020, ft open-book headstocks and MiA lines

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  1. USMarine75

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    Ahh... bc those inlays and the logo look like stickers lol. Just 50 years of filth eh?
     
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    They're delaminating, deteriorating, and off-gassing underneath the clear.

    It's very common on old LPCs. Standards not as much, but you still see it.
     
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    Ah okay, the ones I have seen at my local shops (Long&Mcquade) have the faux aged binding. Glad that they moved on from that. And yeah rich lite would be amazing on this. Dunno about the states, but here in Canada epiphone prices are soaring, I am guessing these are gonna be made in china and launch over 1000 CAD easily. Only one I would get is that LPC (it looks so good)
     
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    Gibson has pretty much always called their gloss black "Ebony".

    So we're all on the same page, everyone knows that they already use ebony wood for Epiphone fretboards right? They have for some time now.
     
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    I have been out of the loop due to life circumstances and I am slowly easing my way into the hobby again. Are they really using ebony boards on regular epi LPC besides artist models like Matt Heafy or Björn Gelotte? If so, that is awesome.

    My first proper electric was an Epi LP Standard made in 2004, which I bought used in 2008. I still have it, recently put SD Jb in the bridge and playing it a lot more now. I am stoked about the new LPC, hope it comes out before summer.
     
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    In addition to signature models (when Custom based), it has been used on certain limiteds, the Inspired series models, and LPC Pro:

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ENCTEBGH--epiphone-les-paul-custom-pro-ebony
     
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    Yeah, for a Gibson / Epiphone history noob (me), can anyone provide info / link / pics of these 2 headstocks side by side, or summin' similar? Maybe explain the difference?
     
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    Glad I could help, dude.

    Definitely look into them. I've played a number of them in stores and the quality is consistently solid. They feel nice and heavy too, for what it's worth.
     
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    It'll be easier once there are more and better pics of the new headstock, which seems to be an amalgamation of the Gibson Open-Book and the old old old Kalamazoo headstock.

    Gibson:
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    1940's Kalamazoo:
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    The differences are overall minor, but I'm sure some folks with hate either. :lol:

    Though I never really hated the current Epiphone headstock as much as some on the internet do.
     
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    Hmmm Epiphone LP Florentine (the ones with the F-holes) or that SG P90.

    How were the MIC Epi LPs of 2015-ish timeframe? I’ve heard good things about the latest MIC Epi stuff.
     
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    I feel like they really hit their stride in 2013. Everything since then has either been just as good or better.
     
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    I'm just excited to see a basic V and Explorer again. Seemed like all they ever had for the longest time was that Korina finish and those satin black 'Goth' models.

    Gloss black finish, white pickguard, chrome hardware, no design gimmicks.

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    Those goth models had to be the longest running models without spec changes in history.
     
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    Had a Gothic ii (no inlays) Explorer with EMG's. Was a really decent axe and had a great, girthy metal chug, but really poor sustain for single, fretted lead notes. Still miss the tone, though.

    Thanks for that! The new Epiphone "open-book-ish" headstocks without the 45'd corners kinda remind me of olde-timey 1920's hairdos. And Guitar world is throwing around the "Open Book" terminology fairly loosely.


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    https://www.guitarworld.com/news/gi...-change-to-the-entire-epiphone-guitar-line-up
     
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    The only reason this is even a big deal is that Gibson has said, repeatedly, that they'll never bring back the actual Gibson headstock as we know it on the import lines.

    Which is still very much the case.

    They're just relying on how little your average player knows about this kind of minutiae and advertising (which is all that GW article is) to make folks more okay with buying an Epiphone, which is fine, because Epiphones have been quite good for some time now.
     
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    I'm gonna just come out and say it. I never even noticed that the headstocks were different until I heard people whining about it on the internet. And unless you put them side-by-side I still don't even notice.
     
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    Difference seen and noted. Like 'em all, and couldn't really give a hoot which one of them was at the end of my guitar neck.

    I too, was completely oblivious prior to this thread but appreciate being updated. These differences pale in comparison to what other brands do with their LP-type headstocks: Ibanez ARZ boat paddle (owned the ARZIR28 and 100% loved everything else about it) and ESP wavy flag thing (as subtle as it is, just doesn't have the elegance) to name a couple.
     

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