Envoy Guitars = ViK (Seriously, f*ck this guy.)

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  1. I play music

    I play music SS.org Regular

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    Well then why does no one sue him?
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Because it's not that easy.
     
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    Let's say that someone DOES decide to sue (because I've looked into it with others that have stolen gear/money from me). The victim will probably do small claims court, because you can get up to $10,000 there, and don't need a lawyer. But, you WILL need to take the day off. So you'll be down a day's work. Then, if you win (which you likely will, because Vik more than likely won't show up) you'll be told that he does, in fact, owe you a guitar or money. But at that point he can A) appeal the finding, or B) STILL not pay you. If he chooses not to pay you, then you have to basically sue him again, just to make him pay. And there's still no guarantee.

    Overall, it's a pain in the ass for the victim, and it's not 100% guaranteed that it will work, because A) Vik obviously doesn't care, and B) Seems to think he's invincible.

    I do think a group of people banding together to sue would work, but someone is going to have to make that a part time job to get anywhere with it.
     
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    He has a current pending civil case against him in California. However until criminal charges are brought against him, not much is going to happen to him.
     
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    possumkiller Square Dance Caller

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    This always bothered me with that style of "set" neck. I have seen a lot of small builders using that style lately. It's basically a bolt on neck in an AANJ style pocket but held in with glue instead of screws. No tenon, no dovetail, no nothing. Just a bolt-on style neck joint held together with glue and not screws. Seems weak to me.
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    Isn't wood glue stronger than screws?
     
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    depends on the screws. threaded inserts and steel screws are muuuuch stronger than cheap ass zinc wood screws.
     
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    I think what you may be referring to is that wood glue is stronger than wood :cool:
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    :shrug: Screenshot_20210913-072932.png
     
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    Every day is a school day! ;)
    PS Charge your phone
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    Nice try, abutterflyhouse.com, we have screws for that:

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    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    I could be mixing it up with another builder but I think I remember a video where he slotted the neck in and it he was able to swing the guitar around by the neck without anything budging so there it's more solid than it looks.

    Still think there are better options for set necks out there though.
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    Wasn't that Tom Anderson with that like wedge pocket two screw design?
     
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    Ataraxia2320 SS.org Regular

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    I'm sure a lot of builders put videos up like this but it definitely wasnt TA. I love that guys work and would definitely not get him mixed up with Vik.
     
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    Properly applied and cured glue is stronger than properly applied screws.

    Also, a broadsword is stronger than a table knife, but I don't think it's necessary to set the table with broadswords.
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Was it this one? (I screwed up the audio so it's not synced right)
     

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