Educate me. Whats the big deal with blues guitarists?

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  1. nightlight

    nightlight SS.org Regular

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    I've often wondered about it myself but then it dawned on me.

    Have you seen alll those posers playing sweep solos and whatnot and then trying to make guitar faces?

    What are they vocalising? Bllll blllllll blllll

    Now think of a blues guitarist playing one note over and over and over again with expression. And he's making a face too, but it looks like a face that's been down so very damn long that it looks like up to me.

    The feelz, boys. Them blues.
     
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    I like and respect the blues fine historically and as a legitimate genre and style of play, but I used to belong to another guitar forum when I was much younger, and from what I remember there was a big culture of pretentious snobbery from all the players there who were "blues guys" that left a bad impression on me. Kind of the same feeling as when I went to a local music store while in college and had the older blues dudes mock me for wanting to buy a seven string guitar. .-.
     
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    In fairness, they have been robbed, disrespected, and denigrated aside from a few select guys. For every SRV, KWS, Hendrix, three Kings, etc., there is 100 that were treated like shit, robbed by musicians and record companies, stuff like that. Meanwhile, the industry pumps up people that couldn't string together a melody with written instructions, yet make millions. I'm not a huge fan of the blues, but I respect it.
     
  4. Themistocles

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    boomer white guys appropriating genres and applauding themselves...
     
  5. Choop

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    Yeah :C the music industry in general is tough -- metal genres also deal with issues regarding acceptance and success because no matter how popular, they are still considered fringe/niche (unless I guess you are Metallica maybe).
     
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    Unfortunately, if music was judged only by online interactions with its staunchest fans, we'd probably all rather listen stamp-collecting podcasts. Hell, I'm still convinced from a side-career of helping my older coworkers with computer stuff constantly that the only folks from the "boomer" generation who bothered to learn how to use computers early on were those who needed the world to know that their Fender was a gazillion times better than everybody's Ibanez. :lol:

    That said, it's kind of rich on a metal/shred-centric forum to give the blues guys a hard time over snobbery because I think the equivalent worst of 'us' laps them in so many ways: looking down noses at other genres, gatekeeping subgenres, chasing-off young players, fawning over ludicrously rare/expensive gear, unhealthy hero worship, etc. I mean, even this thread wasn't really created in good faith, with the OP essentially asking, "Why does this lower form of music receive prominence that I have prejudged to be undeserved?" like this is fuckin' Quora.
     
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  7. USMarine75

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    To me, the blues is like soccer. It’s a lot of fun to play but watching someone else play it puts me right to sleep.
     
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    Not traditional blues per se, but I feel like this might not be a bad place to post this.

     
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    Sounds like something one of them BLUES guys would say.
     
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    There is quite a bit of elitist bullshit among metal and shred dudes.
     
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    Hah yeah, I was just jokin'. I'm not even sure why I made my original reply in this thread since it wasn't really relevant to the OP.
     
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    The blues was invented so that I could watch Samantha Fish play it, hallelujah!
     
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    Shit, once THIS crowd (metal) adds that bit of swing, they're clear back to Van Halen (I never left)
     
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    If you use YouTube, you can slow it down, and find that quite a few songs in Van Halen's catalog have that swingin' 8th feel. Makes them suddenly make sense. Some of those swingin' 8th songs are played at insane tempos.
     
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    I love the blues. It's what I played when I was just starting out. The guitar techniques of blues players in the 20's through to the 60's pushed the envelope more than any other genre, but those songs were cool with or without guitar techniques showcased.

    The blues was never the popular genre, either, so why the hate? It's not like any of those artists made as much money from their music as the rock groups who covered those songs.
     
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    I come to this thread to when I want to get migraines
     
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    Does it work?
     
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    LOL. I think you're onto something there.
     
  20. eclecto-acoustic

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    A lot of good insight shared already, particularly regarding the history of the genre and some of its key popular players.

    I've often found that experiencing the roots of a genre helps me to appreciate its modern incarnations much more. Sometimes you find artists who are very much students of these seminal moments, and while they tend to hew close to the line of tradition, they can't help but have a modern inflection of some kind. Those ones don't necessarily evolve the art form as much, but strike a great balance between purity and originality.

    Frankly, everyone can have preferences and that's fine; the rub is when someone weaponizes their ignorance about a genre. I've been "accused" of using blues licks when I was playing anything but, or country by way of playing a G chord. Not all blues is pentatonic wankery, just like not all metal is 200bpm double kicks and drop tuned chugging. I am a fan of both macro genres and dislike both of those elements when abused.
     
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