parksed24
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Is this real life?! Dammit, somebody on here buy this so I can keep staring at it. Ibanez RG Lacs Red J Craft Prestige La Custom Shop Between The Buried and Me | eBay
Dusty's (BTBAM) Ibanez LACS!
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Is this real life?! Dammit, somebody on here buy this so I can keep staring at it. Ibanez RG Lacs Red J Craft Prestige La Custom Shop Between The Buried and Me | eBay
Watty
Naturally Cynical
It's owned by Engage, who bought it from HighGain after he threw it up for sale on here...
brutalwizard
Pretty Your Petunia
It also sold for only $1450 here, so that is a fat markup.
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gu...cs-d-ball-dustie-btbams-guitar-custom-rg.html
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gu...cs-d-ball-dustie-btbams-guitar-custom-rg.html
HighGain510
Contributor
That guitar is not worth it, IMO, I've had a few Prestige models that kill that thing. 
There are also indentations in the top/back that were conveniently not photographed in that eBay listing (I posted pics of the damage when I listed it here, which is likely why I got shafted on my selling price... cost of being an honest seller I guess... with such a nice camera, I don't think he could possibly claim he couldn't get them to show up when I had no issue doing so with a Nikon D50). It also sold for less than $1250, FWIW, and even less from the guy I sold it to when the current owner picked it up.
There are also indentations in the top/back that were conveniently not photographed in that eBay listing (I posted pics of the damage when I listed it here, which is likely why I got shafted on my selling price... cost of being an honest seller I guess... with such a nice camera, I don't think he could possibly claim he couldn't get them to show up when I had no issue doing so with a Nikon D50). It also sold for less than $1250, FWIW, and even less from the guy I sold it to when the current owner picked it up.
engage757
Banned
That guitar is not worth it, IMO, I've had a few Prestige models that kill that thing.
You can see some little indents bro!
I just feel like it must be worth more,(it is a LACS for God-sakes) so I threw it up to see what kind of offers I get. Mostly listed it for sale because right after I bought it, the member I bought it from offered me a killer deal on a prestige and two J-customs as a package, so I was seeing how much I could get offered for the LACS. Many people LOVE to bitch at me for listing high, but fuck them.
I get more emails from people making me offers on items on ebay then I do actually getting bids. It costs nearly nothing to list and I get offers from all over the world on my stuff everyday! And the truth of the matter is, I ALWAYS know what I WILL get for a guitar, 98% of the time I just mark them higher because people love to haggle. And so do I. My D40 took pretty good shots of it I thought. It is in phenomenal shape.
It is a PHENOMENAL guitar, but my hands cramp on Ibby necks anymore. And I am not a BTBAM fan really, so it holds no sentimental value to me.
engage757
Banned
not accurate. It has changed hands at least twice since Matt.
WillDfx
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I bought this directly from Dustie, it is a wonderful guitar. I would buy it back for the price I paid for it originally, I feel it's worth it. In fact the plan was for me to buy it back from Matt a few weeks after I sold it to him, but I was still having trouble coming up with dough do to a KxK or three(SORRY MATT! 
). But still it is a badassed guitar, anyone who ends up with it this time will surely be happy!
). But still it is a badassed guitar, anyone who ends up with it this time will surely be happy!
engage757
Banned
Semantics. And it'd seem to me that trying to justify the pricing scheme to people who know exactly what it is, let alone exactly what it went for before, is kind of moot.
I thought someone was going to go for the STD angle, but I guess shame is just as communicable.
It's ok Ben. It will all be alright, I promise. Try not to lose any sleep m'kay?
Why so seeerrrrius man?
It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay, which is what is easily judged by listing something high and taking offers.
HighGain510
Contributor
Really?
I don't see these pictured anywhere in your shots, and they're certainly still there unless you had the guitar refinished (which you didn't obviously):
I won't outright call you shady dude, but I will say it's more than a bit "convenient" that your price is significantly higher and NONE of those blemishes are in your photos and you only mention the following:
engage757 eBay Auction said:
I'd say the scratches in the back and the indentations in the clear that are pictured above aren't "typical" and they absolutely show up in pictures as you can see, however if you go out of your way to only take shots from angles where they won't show up, sure... they're "not visible" I guess...
Just saying, between this where I KNOW that the damage is not disclosed/shown as it should be and the RG Gold incident recently where the previous seller mentioned issues with the neck that went completely un-noted in your listing at a MUCH higher price yet again, I'm pretty shocked man.
engage757
Banned
I think tour wear is a pretty good description. And I am sorry you don't agree bro. I just have one flash and one camera and I can't get it to show up. I would say if anything it is pretty minimal wear for a toured out guitar wouldn't you? Ever seen a Caparison artist custom? I had the soilwork wichers custom sold to me as "normal tour wear" and there are inch long GOUGES out of the body.
Before I start on this rant though, I want you to know that I do have a lot of respect for you Matt, but this is getting out of hand.
Oh yeah, and not that anyone gave me the opportunity to ay this before I started getting blasted for it, but I was on a ban right after I listed the Gold Ibby, I couldn't respond to anything, which is why I didn't. There are no cracks in the body like the seller described.
As I TRIED to say later on, the guy didn't speak english very well at all. There are NO cracks in the body, it has the same finish marks that every Gold covered guitar would have. The guy thought they were imperfections, and when I talked to him, I could decipher that they weren't cracks, just the normal checks that a metallic covered guitar has. Same as the Caparison Dellinger Aluminum. It happens on metal flake covered guitars, there are no issues at ALL with that guitar, the guy just didn't know the English terms for it or how to describe it. He was Thai after all.
I have never had an issue with anyone of any merit. Ever. I have one negative feedback left by a kid who has zero proof and is pissy about me going way out of my way to lose money and break the law to hook him up.
Sorry to rant, but I am getting really fucking tired of this. I have sold enough instruments to very happy people to say that I am an honest seller. I don't need to be questioned about EVERYTHING being sketchy.
If someone doesn't like the price, haggle with me, that's the point. But it is my property and it is NO-ONE's business how I price it. If you want it, make me an offer. If you don't then don't. Everyone knows I like to haggle and dicker and I am EXTREMELY easy to work with.
So, the Gold J-Custom deal is something that needs to be over. It is just fine. I had a huge local Ibby collector play it yesterday and love it.
The Kid on the neg feedback had 3-4 posts, no proof of his accusations, now I don't deal with anyone that isn't established. Lesson learned.
The only other issue I ever had was the one on here with the Rhoads. And you know what? The guy that brought it up REFUSED to let UPS inspect it 3 DIFFERENT times. HE fucked it up. Not me or my packing. I took it to the UPS store when I got it back and left it their for a UPS claims adjuster to look at and he said the same thing. AND that the guy refused the UPS Damage inspection multiple times. I can try to get him to write me a notarized letter if I need to supporting the fact that both he, the person that packs ALL my guitars and I (as well as my producer) can ALL verify the opinion that someone else was shady on that deal.
SO, yeah. That's enough. I don't know what this forum's problem is lately. it seems like 4-5 people, want to neg-rep everything they see of me and stir everything up into a shitstorm.
Bottom line, I said it's got tour wear. And it does. If ANYTHING, it is in PHENOMENAL shape for a tour guitar. I can try to take some iphone pics out side to show every little ding, but it has nothing to do with angles. I just take pictures so I don't get a lot of glare.
I am just really tired of being accused of being shady on this forum. I deal on Caparisonforum, rig talk, the gearpage, vintage rocker, boogie boards, ex-birds and moons, HC, Seymour Duncan, etc, and no one EVER has anything bad to say. This little witch hunt needs to stop. I have never screwed someone in my life, and I have never even stolen so much as a pack of gum in my life. I have hundreds of people that can vouch for me at a moment's notice, it is REALLY annoying where a COMMUNITY of people that I have been involved in and EXTREMELY active for years and doing deals with people starts a witch hunt against me on the word of a 15 year old with no proof of anything or a total misunderstanding that I can't backup when it comes up because I am on a ban.
Do I need to start a thread and start inviting the hundreds of people that have dealt with me and been extremely satisfied into it so 4 people will stop calling me shady?
Oh yeah, and for the record, I did offer this guitar back to it's original owner for the same price he paid, that should be proof enough of my willingness to deal. But on ebay, I am losing 10% to them and another like 4-5% in paypal fees, I had it listed at $1700 originally. drop $200 from that off the bat and offer me a hundred dollars less and you have the original price Will paid for it, so yeah, $100-150 markup after ebay fees. Unheard of? hardly.
With all due respect. Just tired of the 4-5 people on here that have NEVER dealt with me calling me shady, so now I am defensive. And for the record, I did email people that I figured out who had an issue with me and say (paraphrased) this:
I have NEVER dealtwith you, never spoken to or about you, yet you talk shit on someone you know NOTHING about. If you have an issue with me, then tell me. If you WANT an issue with me, then let's talk. Maybe we can try being friends. At the end of that period of getting to know me, you don't like me and still want to talk shit, then t least you have a legit reason to.
I say that to the other ones trying to cause trouble about and with me. If you have an issue with me, bring it to me. Don't try to defame me publicly. Believe me, I am a very open person and extremely friendly. I did NOT wake up today to start trouble or screw anyone. Never have and never will. Get to know me haters, you might be surprised. I legit like and get along with nearly everyone.
Before I start on this rant though, I want you to know that I do have a lot of respect for you Matt, but this is getting out of hand.
Oh yeah, and not that anyone gave me the opportunity to ay this before I started getting blasted for it, but I was on a ban right after I listed the Gold Ibby, I couldn't respond to anything, which is why I didn't. There are no cracks in the body like the seller described.
As I TRIED to say later on, the guy didn't speak english very well at all. There are NO cracks in the body, it has the same finish marks that every Gold covered guitar would have. The guy thought they were imperfections, and when I talked to him, I could decipher that they weren't cracks, just the normal checks that a metallic covered guitar has. Same as the Caparison Dellinger Aluminum. It happens on metal flake covered guitars, there are no issues at ALL with that guitar, the guy just didn't know the English terms for it or how to describe it. He was Thai after all.
I have never had an issue with anyone of any merit. Ever. I have one negative feedback left by a kid who has zero proof and is pissy about me going way out of my way to lose money and break the law to hook him up.
Sorry to rant, but I am getting really fucking tired of this. I have sold enough instruments to very happy people to say that I am an honest seller. I don't need to be questioned about EVERYTHING being sketchy.
If someone doesn't like the price, haggle with me, that's the point. But it is my property and it is NO-ONE's business how I price it. If you want it, make me an offer. If you don't then don't. Everyone knows I like to haggle and dicker and I am EXTREMELY easy to work with.
So, the Gold J-Custom deal is something that needs to be over. It is just fine. I had a huge local Ibby collector play it yesterday and love it.
The Kid on the neg feedback had 3-4 posts, no proof of his accusations, now I don't deal with anyone that isn't established. Lesson learned.
The only other issue I ever had was the one on here with the Rhoads. And you know what? The guy that brought it up REFUSED to let UPS inspect it 3 DIFFERENT times. HE fucked it up. Not me or my packing. I took it to the UPS store when I got it back and left it their for a UPS claims adjuster to look at and he said the same thing. AND that the guy refused the UPS Damage inspection multiple times. I can try to get him to write me a notarized letter if I need to supporting the fact that both he, the person that packs ALL my guitars and I (as well as my producer) can ALL verify the opinion that someone else was shady on that deal.
SO, yeah. That's enough. I don't know what this forum's problem is lately. it seems like 4-5 people, want to neg-rep everything they see of me and stir everything up into a shitstorm.
Bottom line, I said it's got tour wear. And it does. If ANYTHING, it is in PHENOMENAL shape for a tour guitar. I can try to take some iphone pics out side to show every little ding, but it has nothing to do with angles. I just take pictures so I don't get a lot of glare.
I am just really tired of being accused of being shady on this forum. I deal on Caparisonforum, rig talk, the gearpage, vintage rocker, boogie boards, ex-birds and moons, HC, Seymour Duncan, etc, and no one EVER has anything bad to say. This little witch hunt needs to stop. I have never screwed someone in my life, and I have never even stolen so much as a pack of gum in my life. I have hundreds of people that can vouch for me at a moment's notice, it is REALLY annoying where a COMMUNITY of people that I have been involved in and EXTREMELY active for years and doing deals with people starts a witch hunt against me on the word of a 15 year old with no proof of anything or a total misunderstanding that I can't backup when it comes up because I am on a ban.
Do I need to start a thread and start inviting the hundreds of people that have dealt with me and been extremely satisfied into it so 4 people will stop calling me shady?
Oh yeah, and for the record, I did offer this guitar back to it's original owner for the same price he paid, that should be proof enough of my willingness to deal. But on ebay, I am losing 10% to them and another like 4-5% in paypal fees, I had it listed at $1700 originally. drop $200 from that off the bat and offer me a hundred dollars less and you have the original price Will paid for it, so yeah, $100-150 markup after ebay fees. Unheard of? hardly.
With all due respect. Just tired of the 4-5 people on here that have NEVER dealt with me calling me shady, so now I am defensive. And for the record, I did email people that I figured out who had an issue with me and say (paraphrased) this:
I have NEVER dealtwith you, never spoken to or about you, yet you talk shit on someone you know NOTHING about. If you have an issue with me, then tell me. If you WANT an issue with me, then let's talk. Maybe we can try being friends. At the end of that period of getting to know me, you don't like me and still want to talk shit, then t least you have a legit reason to.
I say that to the other ones trying to cause trouble about and with me. If you have an issue with me, bring it to me. Don't try to defame me publicly. Believe me, I am a very open person and extremely friendly. I did NOT wake up today to start trouble or screw anyone. Never have and never will. Get to know me haters, you might be surprised. I legit like and get along with nearly everyone.
engage757
Banned
I wanted to add, Matt you have been a good guy to me and a good friend. That was not meant to be aimed at you, and I know you weren't calling me shady. I just am so tired of the negativity being blasted at me constantly from people who DON'T know me.
I apologize, didn't mean to direct that negativity at you.
Sorry mate.
I apologize, didn't mean to direct that negativity at you.
Sorry mate.
brutalwizard
Pretty Your Petunia
I just wanted to add I was just letting the kid know he already missed out on the best deal possible for this guitar. I understand that you value it more, and could possibly get a better price for it on ebay and your right to do so.
No reason to be "defensive" we just dont like to see you buy a guitar here and flip it for more on SSO. Which you obviously weren't trying to do. But It got brought up here by another member so we informed him.
As for your negative itrader, mehh dont worry about it. And have no idea about the goldtop.
Keep up the neat pic's of the cool guitars man.
No reason to be "defensive" we just dont like to see you buy a guitar here and flip it for more on SSO. Which you obviously weren't trying to do. But It got brought up here by another member so we informed him.
As for your negative itrader, mehh dont worry about it. And have no idea about the goldtop.
Keep up the neat pic's of the cool guitars man.
engage757
Banned
I hear ya bro. I just am really trying to remove negative activity/energy from my life. I really love this community, and I just hate when I sign on here for a good time with other gear junkies and people feel the need to bring negativity to somewhere that is such a positive environment (at least in my opinion). I really love to contribute to this community, and it sucks when a few people try constantly to put out bad vibes. Just felt like that has been happening a lot lately. Peace love and GAS ya know?
It's a good thing when the community looks out too, but people should know I will ALWAYS sell my gear at a better price to forum guys. All they have to do is ask. I love enabling GAS.
It's a good thing when the community looks out too, but people should know I will ALWAYS sell my gear at a better price to forum guys. All they have to do is ask.
I love enabling GAS.
It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay, which is what is easily judged by listing something high and taking offers.
Offers to buy or sell outside of eBay
Not following rules put in place to protect both buyer and seller by adding extra security (y'know, like feedback) is shady.
Btw, I always sign my rep
I just can't give anymore
engage757
Banned
Offers to buy or sell outside of eBay
Not following rules put in place to protect both buyer and seller by adding extra security (y'know, like feedback) is shady.
Btw, I always sign my rep
You can accept offers on eBay.
You can accept offers on eBay.
Someone didn't click the link
You've come out and said that you take offers for sales outside of eBay to avoid the fees. That's what my link addresses.
engage757
Banned
Someone didn't click the link
Well, ok, I guess YOU don't do that, but I know plenty of people who contact people on ebay for deals, and I personally am just fine with not paying them 10% of my final price.
THat's why a lot of guys, myself included price high on eBay. Also why I prefer dealing off of it, as I don't see a reason for my buyer to pay for my eBay fees.
Well, ok, I guess YOU don't do that, but I know plenty of people who contact people on ebay for deals, and I personally am just fine with not paying them 10% of my final price.
But it's against the eBay rules, therefore, your account should probably be suspended.
engage757
Banned
Well, I do enough business and have paid thousands of dollars to eBay over the years, so I am not really concerned.
Just paid them $496 today alone.
Well, I do enough business and have paid thousands of dollars to eBay over the years, so I am not really concerned.
That doesn't give you special treatment or make it so you can get around the policies and rules you agreed to by signing up for their site.
Next you'll tell me you can walk in the doors of eBay HQ and be welcomed by name by everyone, followed by plowing all their wives while they watch and applaud.
Btw, thanks for the neg rep.
1) I don't give a shit about forum rep.
2) That policy is common knowledge and took 1 second to google.
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