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Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by p0ke, May 23, 2018.
James LaBrie at his prime is one of the best vocalists ever dont @ me
Sing 'Em All
wouldn't necessarily go that far but in his prime, he was the absolutely perfect vocalist for Dream Theater in their prime (Images, Awake, ACoS). Had the range and skills to match their playing ability perfectly.
It really is a shame that he messed up his vocals so badly and it's pretty much a miracle he still sings.
James LaBrie's vocals are the main reason I like Dream Theater. He conveys a lot of emotion in many songs and is the glue that ties the super complex music together.
A lot of the people here don't realise that without his voice breathing life into the songs this would just be another "Animals as leaders", which is ok if you like that kind of thing, but really just an instrumental niche.
I don't think his voice is particularly appealing, and he sounds like a moron when he tries to sound congenial and gentle (think the opening to Finally Free). I think his vocal MELODIES are what's holding the band together and that they don't get anywhere near enough credit. I think many of their songs are probably memorable primarily because of them. I just don't know if they're specifically created by him or whether some other dude could have sung the same things and the band would have been better.
I recall reading that in their earlier days, whoever wrote the lyrics also wrote the melody for that particular song. Given MP's increased control in the band, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a very heavy hand later on in the vocal melodies.
Piggybacking on your point, if you do want to hear what pure JLB melody composition is, listen to the DT self-titled (which he did 100% insulated from the band) or any of his solo stuff.
For whatever reason I find myself wanting to listen to Out of Reach most from the new album now. I haven't paid attention to the lyrics so I don't know about the cheese people are talking about, but the melancholic vibe of the song just hits somewhere really deep inside. It almost makes me wish the song would be longer and grow into some heavier stuff, but then again it would probably ruin it.
Johns solo are superb and the non shreddy solos are so much feel. The solo at the end of “Wits End” sounds like an eagle flying into a sunset over a mountain singing Celine Dion lol
Not to derail, but THANK YOU to the folks in this thread that discussed Haken. I never gave this band a chance after hearing Cockroach King a long time back and not digging. Well fast forward and I've bought the last four albums now and totally binging on them nearly every day. Crap these guys are great!
I just realized that Viper King is basically classic Boston, but metal.
That groovey ass riff in the beginning slays
Better late than never. Welcome to the party
This so much.........I got goosebumps listening to that.......LOVE IT
One of my favorite moments on this album.
This whole album has been kicking my ass for the last couple of weeks. It's such a great return to form. Where have they been? I couldn't even make it through The Astonishing.... This album is supreme... and reminiscent of their glory years.
I had the exact same experience. Cockroach King was a bit much for my first listen, with the multi-layered vocals coming across as kind of self-indulgent. Once I heard 1985 I was hooked, and now I celebrate their entire catalog. Even Cockroach King grew on me.
Hmm, now I have to look up Haken.
Been listening to the new DT and like it better than the last few, but I've never been a huge fan of JLB's vocals, even on Images.
Back in the day, Tate was amazing, haven't heard him recently.
I'm listening to SoA right now and Soto's voice has the cajones that JLB's don't, but he may not have the range(?).
Wow, DT premiered some of the new songs live yesterday, including PBD:
I'll have to say, Labrie's sounding surprisingly good there!
1985!! Same for me, I love it! Haken has made me want an 8 string for the first time.
If you’re an amazon prime member you can download Affinity for free. If not, all their albums are streaming on YouTube. Start with Affinity or Vector and work backwards. That’s what I did.