Double NGD: ESP E-II Eclipse

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I wanted to have an Eclipse for many years but I could not decide. So I bought two (used).

E-II RDB 2012 - Compared to the current model it has the old style logo and no diamond on the headstock, locking tuners without the thumb wheel on the back, plastic covered EMGs, rosewood fretboard, no satin neck and no heel carve. The electronics are also not solder-less like the current model. But the color is a lot more purple than blue (compared to photos of the current model that I've seen) and it looks really nice with the naturally aged binding.This one has many light scratches but the frets still look really good like it has barely been played.

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More photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/raytsh/albums/72177720298125833

E-II DB VB 2018 - The only difference to the current model that I'm aware of are the Schaller strap locks, but I've switched them for Dunlop locks right away. This one has never been played according to the seller and from that I can tell, this is true.

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More photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/raytsh/albums/72177720298125818
 

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Looks awesome. I absolutely ADORE EC flag inlays, they're like nodding at gibson but still soooo unique and cool.
 

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The top of the tuning pegs turn; it’s a pain in the dick, I have them on my Viper and I hate them lol

OP, congrats, Eclipses are some of the nicest playing LP shapes out there, great score!
So like PRS tuners, I didnt know that.

OP congrats - those look awesome :yesway:.
 

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HNGD X2! Question, how do those tuners lock with no thumb wheel?
On the back, just like normal non-locking tuners. But on the front, they have a slit for tightening. You can see it on the photos of the front of the headstock of the RDB.
 

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The top of the tuning pegs turn; it’s a pain in the dick, I have them on my Viper and I hate them lol

OP, congrats, Eclipses are some of the nicest playing LP shapes out there, great score!
Right, I don't like it either. I will swap the tuners for some with the locking wheel on the back.
 

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Nice. 2 solid additions.

I have a modern RDB/E-II great guitar.
 

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Congrats man that RDB is siick.

I have used those locking tuners before and they suck, if they are the gotoh locking they are suppose to auto lock by turning the tuning peg but I was never able to get them to work properly. You are not suppose to lock them by turning the top of the peg, it is a weird system.
 

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You are not suppose to lock them by turning the top of the peg, it is a weird system.
Oh, really? I have not yet changed strings on the RDB, only on the VB since I switched tuning there. But the tuners on the RDB have marks from the previous owner tightening them manually. There was even a matching 5 cent (Euro) coin in the case for this very job I assume.
 

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Oh, really? I have not yet changed strings on the RDB, only on the VB since I switched tuning there. But the tuners on the RDB have marks from the previous owner tightening them manually. There was even a matching 5 cent (Euro) coin in the case for this very job I assume.
IIRC yea those tuners are suppose to let go and catch the strings simply by turning the tuners. Similar to the previous owner if your guitar I would resort to using a coin/pick, but it doesnt work like a PRS tuner for example designed for that, turning the head does not loosen or tighen like you would expect and requires alot of fiddling to get it to catch the string. If they provided better instructions on how to operate them I am sure I would have had an easier time. Those are most hated tuners of all time, thumb screw is the best. I would be curious of your report on them after you try a string change, alot of ESP from a certain time period come with those I think.
 

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As an example sometimes you can make them lock on the string but then as soon as you start turning the tuning peg it loosens. In theory they would be amazing if they worked as intentended.
 


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