Direct mount vs ring

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  1. Xk6m6m5X

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    Is there a physical difference in the pickup or am i just way out in left field here?
     
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    The only occasional difference - and not really anything by design - is that depending on the screw size being used, some people have drilled out the threads in the pickup to make it direct mountable. Meaning it is no longer pickguard mountable without nuts glued underneath, or rethreading for a bigger screw etc.
    Direct mount = screw moves freely in pickup to alter its height in the body with foam underneath
    Pickguard mount = screw stays in the same place on the guard and moves the pickup up its thread to alter height.
    The same pickup can and should be able to be used both ways as long as you use smaller screws for direct mounting.
     
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    TheWarAgainstTime "TWAT" for short

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    Nothing changes on the pickup itself.

    Some people tend to drill out the holes in the pickup tabs a bit with direct-mount guitars so they can use a slightly beefier wood screw for mounting as opposed to the machine screws that you'd generally use for mounting with a ring, but that's more of a preference thing anyway.
     
  4. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Depends on the geometry of the bridge, fretboard, top of the guitar, and string path.

    If over a certain amount, the added 1/8" to 1/2" of height from pickup rings can be helpful in achieving proper pickup to string distance.
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Pickup rings are the ugliest thing in guitar design and should be banned from existence. I cringe every time I see a beautiful AAAAA top with some plastic things that will eventually break on top of it.

    /rant.
     
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  6. Xk6m6m5X

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    I will only use the finest rings crafted out of precious metals, exotic woods or gem stones!
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    And you'll still have 4 more screw holes per pickup in your guitar. And goofy looking pickups in your sevenstrings.
     
  8. Xk6m6m5X

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    I don't know man I can't have goofy looking pickups in a 7 string if I don't have one lol and in certain guitars I prefer the look of pick up rings
     
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    I have owned few, and currently own one direct mount guitar. The cleaner looks doesn't help much when adjusting the height is a real pain in the butt. Pickups might be loose, tilt and need to play with foam. Not to mention I'm not buying any aftermarket pickups that have the threads drilled out.

    You can get some fancy looking rings from ebay that can give a nice detail.
     
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    Call this me pouring out a 40 for the Unpopular Opinions thread but:

    A guitar's never fully dressed without a pickguard and mounting rings are an acceptable substitute. Never dug the look of direct mounts.

    Aesthetics aside, though, I find the 'indirect' mounting methods are far less of a pain in the ass than direct. Pretty much for exactly the reasons Snarpaasi mentioned... had to ruin a perfectly good 81 to install it in my RG premium... Still hate myself for it
     
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    I hate direct mount pickups!!

    I won't buy a guitar if it's direct mount.
     
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    If you want to direct mount, buy a pickup baseplate and screw it to the bottom of the cavity. Hold your pickup at the height from the strings you want, then screw through the pickup and baseplate. Hey presto, direct mount with stability, height adjustment and no pissing around with foam
     
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    i just prefer pickup rings on classic shaped superstrats (Charvel, Jackson, EVH, Friedman) and direct mount for modern ones (Ibanez, Solar, any sharp-horned superstrats). I prefer the functionality of pup rings but admittedly, they don't look as good with the more modern iterations. Pup rings are just so 80s and they look amazing with classic shapes.
     
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    What are these base plates you speak of?
     
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    No no...not "a piece of brass"... it's their "famous FU Bell Brass".

    I always thought "bell brass" had more to do with the process and the end result, and not the material itself.
     
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    That means what?
     
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    You'd have to ask their marketing for sure, but after a little bit o' googling, it seems that "bell brass" isn't brass, but is a bronze alloy. Depending on the alloy, bronze as a raw material can cost 5x as much as brass.
     
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    The concept is good, but it could be pot metal for me lol
     
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