Democratic Primary thread

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    So it looks like Klobuchar isn't the only one being vetted, she's just the one that's gonna get more clicks on articles.
     
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    Please. We know exactly where he'd grab them, and it ain't a tittie.
     
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    Klobuchar wouldn't increase his midwest appeal, no one that would vote for her wasn't already going to vote Biden and there's definitely some that would change their mind on Biden thanks to her being generally unpleasant and having those widely publicized stories about how she acts towards her subordinates like she thinks she's Meryl Streep in Devil Wears Prada.
     
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    The inevitable HBO documentary on Biden's 2020 POTUS campaign is going to be incredible.
     
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    Here's the preview.

     
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    We can get caught up in the stupidly poor choice of phrasing, but the fact is the ultimate message is something that everyone already knows and recognizes: Trump is a racist and so is the vast majority of his support base.
     
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    I know that's ultimately what he was trying to say but.... Poor choice of words?
     
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    I watched the actual interview which I know most will not take the time to do. Joe was joking around when he said it and Charlemain even laughs/nods because anyone watching or involved in that conversation would not take it as what the spin is running. People outraged by this are just people looking for something to tear into Joe about because they are already against him. This is just modern politics and Joe is good at delivering his opposition good sound bytes.
     
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    The amount of hypocrisy in american politics is so fascinating!!
     
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    I mean, on one hand, if disasterous soundbytes were enough to end someone's political career, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. But I feel like the expectation for democratic candidates is a higher bar, unfortunately.
     
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    They do when they brand themselves as the party of attacking gaffes and "no women ever lie" for four years, yeah.
     
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    This seems like a tangent? I can be light on verbal blunders and still give serious consideration to women who raise claims of abuse. Though I still prefer an Obama-era candidate where these are non-issues.
     
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    People in glass houses, etc.

    Minus the 'once in two hundred years' asshole nature of Trump himself, the mainstream of both parties in US politics are exactly 1 degree from eachother. Lest we forget candidate Joe Biden floating a GOP VP option, as well as defending his relationship with a pro-segregation Republican a few month back.

    "Democrats" chose the grounds by which they wanted to engage Trump. Fine if it's true. Fine if your eventual nominee is guilty or accused of the same. But you lose being able to use that tool against your enemy if you, too, are guilty of it.

    Maybe I'm alone in this thinking but Trump being a tapioca pudding brained pussy grabber was a pretty nice offense we had, up until we watered down what that means and floated a guy just a few shades of either, doubly based on these looser defintions.

    I also said "Democrats" because I've long held that MeToo and identity based politics were a conservative trap, and that appears to be increasingly clear.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/opinion/tara-reade-believe-all-women.html

     
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    In the extreme, but really what portion of Democrats have some sort of "women are always right" belief? That's the conservative strawman. If MeToo wants to push the needle closer to "let's hear this person out", I think that's probably a push that's going to align closer to justice than where it is now.

    But ya, as I plow through Season 10 of Curb Your Enthusiasm, the ironies not lost on me.
     
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    That's fair. I think there are people to the left that fall for that trap, though. You can't tell me the way Al Franken was pushed out of his seat was due process, and that Republicans didn't have the most to gain from sacrificing him to the God of Purity.
     
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    And they're still doing it, tbh. Biden last week or the week before saying "if you believe Tara Reade, don't vote for me". Against the guy that openly admitted he rapes women!
     
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