Daily Show destroys Fox news

[petereanima]

As far as Fox News goes, I don't think any other network's hard news programs (and no that doesn't count editorial shows like ALL the networks run) even come close to presenting substantiated facts with as much credibility and fairness as Fox News.

Even the editorial shows they run go above and beyond to bring the cold hard facts forward in which anyone can draw their own conclusions and formulate their own opinions.


Really the main reason there's such hate for Fox coming from the younger demographic is because they are fed this load of shit that Fox isn't credible, when in fact they run the most credible hard news programs of the TV network news shows.

You know, on some events in the past, I wasn't sure if you are serious or not...I am now actually sure, that for 2 years you are trolling this forum on a "Master Of The Universe"-Expertlevel.

...because seriously mate, you can't believe that.

 

[RZKSpieler]

You know, on some events in the past, I wasn't sure if you are serious or not...I am now actually sure, that for 2 years you are trolling this forum on a "Master Of The Universe"-Expertlevel.

...because seriously mate, you can't believe that.

Are you serious?

 

[TRENCHLORD]

You know, on some events in the past, I wasn't sure if you are serious or not...I am now actually sure, that for 2 years you are trolling this forum on a "Master Of The Universe"-Expertlevel.

...because seriously mate, you can't believe that.

Surely you can't be serious? I am serious, and don't call me Shirley .
(stupid airplane movie humor, dis-regard)

Watch Shep Smith (hard news show). He introduces the topic, he interviews the debating sides of the argument (and often the leaders or major players), he ask both sides the questions they would typically be asking each other if cross-examining, then he brings on experts who often disagree with each other, and they give additional analysis. What more can you want from a news show.

Actually one of the few times I can remember Shep giving his own heartfelt opinion on something was when Obama legalized same sex marriage, Shep saying "It's about time we stop living in the stone age, way to go Mr. President".

Maybe you don't like Hannity or his views? Maybe it's O'rielly's opinions you don't like? Those are editorial shows.

 

[flexkill]

I will quit arguing as soon as everyone quits being wrong.

I admit....I lol'd

 

[renzoip]

Although I strongly disagree with John Stewart's liberal views and biases (for the most part), I can appreciate The Daily Show for it's comedic/satirical value (at least they are mocking politicians and people at the top, instead of working class and poor people, like other shows do). Having that said, I hardly ever watch his show, or Comedy Central, or TV in general, for that matter. So I really have little interest in either condemning or defending him and his show.

I see nothing wrong with making fun of Fox News, for many reasons. However, I think it would be naive to call them out on their biased reporting, thinking that other news stations are interested in giving viewers only the facts with no particular spin to them, or biased in a certain way. This is the way journalism has worked for the majority of its existence.

Even the most "unbiased" media outlets have to prioritize what it is that they want viewers to think about; they must decide what events are worth presenting, and how the events should be presented. Not to mention that media outlets are groups of people with convictions and believes, and perhaps more importantly, money and time invested in them; this certainly plays a big role. Then there is also rating, they have to identify an audience and report in a way that will appeal to their particular audience's interests.

To be honest, I don't think that having biases when reporting is all that bad, specially now that access to information is abundant. Personally, I don't just want to know what happened, but also want to know the interests/motives behind those doing the reporting.

I believe that expecting to get neutrality from only one source is not the best way to go about getting informed, anyways. Instead, what I believe is more optimal is to access a few different news sources, compare/contrast the reporting, and draw your own conclusions.

 

[eaeolian]

I will quit arguing as soon as everyone quits being wrong.

You'll quit being a jerk or you'll be leaving. Point made, or do I have to give you some time off?

No personal attacks means no personal attacks. Push me on it and I'll be more than happy to remove you.

 

[Randy]

Push me on it and I'll be more than happy to remove you.

I was already more than happy to oblige.

 

[troyguitar]

Considering the writing and production of The Daily Show to be the actual thoughts/opinions of John Stewart is pretty silly.

The dude's an actor just doing what the show people tell him to do - just like the Fox News people.

"I will quit arguing as soon as everyone quits being wrong" == WINNING

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

I was already more than happy to oblige.

 

[zappatton2]

Canada now has it's own right-wing news parody channel called Sun News, seeking to import all of the worst elements of what Fox represents. I have NO problem with news programs with editorial slants, I read the right-wing National Post every day, and though I do not identify as politically conservative, reading rational conservative perspectives on topics can give me pause and can sway my own positions, provided they are anchored in evidence and precident.

My problem with the Sun and Fox News is the overwraught sensationalism that specifically aims to whip people into a nationalistic fervour, and it's strong emphasis on anti-intellectualism. It purposely turns people's worst emotions (rage and vengefulness) against their own civil liberties, and against evidence-based and science-based policies. Yes it is my opinion, but conservatism can have a prominent editorial voice without the irrational desk-pounding and constant appeal for the "Blood of thine enemies", especially when the enemy list is so much more expansive than it needs to be.

 

[fwd0120]

Hmmmm.... Interesting thread. I honestly disagree with virtually everybody here, and you all have an extreme view in either direction.
That said, if I were to lean in a direction, it would probably be a little more oriented towards Trenchlord, honestly.

With that said, I think all of the news programs are total BS designed to create hysteria. Obviously, it still seems to be working even on you guys, despite you guys not even being 'old bigot people' or whatever. It's completely divisive.

To that end, I think it is hilarious, or maybe sad that Fox is being put down as 'not a legitimate' news program, when they are only guilty of what the other 24-hour outlets are, and then when the word of Stewart and Colbert - which are comedy acts - get so glorified.... This is definitely not the first thread I've seen praising them to this degree, and I must admit, it's a little confusing.

FWIW, I have no political affiliation, I just call it as I see it.

 

[Konfyouzd]

^Is it uncommon for comedians to have political opinions or for their audience to agree with them?

Louis CK
Lewis Black
Chris Rock
Dave Chappelle
Bill Burr (sp?)
George Carlin

Unless you're a politician of some kind, what makes your opinon any more valid (based on the logic I feel was implied--I could be wrong)?

I haven't seen any of what's being commented on... I'm simply responding to the statements you've made.

Laura Ingram looks like somebody drew a face on a kernel of popcorn.

I don't even know who that is... The mental image is funny enough...

 

[Captain Shoggoth]

I don't see why people jumped on Trench, I despise the pure filth that comprises Fox's editorials but for all I know (as I've never watched them), Fox's hard news programming is as viable as he says.

Big fan of the Daily Show here, saw this segment on TV the other day and couldn't stop laughing

 

[Randy]

Fox's hard news programming is as viable as he says.

It's not. There was also a Daily Show segment about that.

Stewart annihilates Fox News' purported opinion-news division: "It's a perpetual revulsion machine" | Video | Media Matters for America

 

[BuckarooBanzai]

Wow, Jon Stewart, part-time comedian and professional reporter on a comedy news network, took the time to shit on the softest target in the world of cable television, Fox News. Color me unsurprised.

What people said earlier in this thread is totally true. CNN spouts just as much drivel as Fox does at this point. I'm a left-leaning conservative and both sides disgust me equally: Fox gives conservatism a bad name and mainstream left-wing rhetoric like CNN inspires right-wing hate for things like social programs and legal abortion.

While the right has the market cornered on being old and crotchety, the left has the market cornered on being trendy to a fault, hence the Jon Stewarts of the world. You don't see anybody talking about how liberals want legalized drugs because "people will get them one way or another" yet are in favor of strict gun control because Democrats aren't fun to make fun of.

All of this aside, I never found Jon Stewart particularly funny and I think that the fact that the Daily Show passes as news for many people is just as scary as Fox being taken 100% seriously.

/ramble

DISCLAIMER: The above contains [reasonable] generalizations. Sign your neg rep. I'm not interested in debating anyone, I'm just wasting time instead of studying.

 

[fwd0120]

Wow, Jon Stewart, part-time comedian and professional reporter on a comedy news network, took the time to shit on the softest target in the world of cable television, Fox News. Color me unsurprised.

What people said earlier in this thread is totally true. CNN spouts just as much drivel as Fox does at this point. I'm a left-leaning conservative and both sides disgust me equally: Fox gives conservatism a bad name and mainstream left-wing rhetoric like CNN inspires right-wing hate for things like social programs and legal abortion.

While the right has the market cornered on being old and crotchety, the left has the market cornered on being trendy to a fault, hence the Jon Stewarts of the world. You don't see anybody talking about how liberals want legalized drugs because "people will get them one way or another" yet are in favor of strict gun control because Democrats aren't fun to make fun of.

All of this aside, I never found Jon Stewart particularly funny and I think that the fact that the Daily Show passes as news for many people is just as scary as Fox being taken 100% seriously.

/ramble

DISCLAIMER: The above contains [reasonable] generalizations. Sign your neg rep. I'm not interested in debating anyone, I'm just wasting time instead of studying.

I pretty much agree with this. At least, it appears to be the case, so I support your assessment.

 

[TemjinStrife]

What's also funny is how quickly The Daily Show calls out MSNBC and CNN for being idiots, as well.

Of course, no one remembers or discusses that, since it's all JON STEWART IS A SOCIALIST SHILL or some such.

 

[Randy]

Wow, Jon Stewart, part-time comedian and professional reporter on a comedy news network, took the time to shit on the softest target in the world of cable television, Fox News. Color me unsurprised.

Biggest gripe. Fox News has been a punch line for like what, 15 years now? Not going after a very difficult group to criticize, there. Given, there WAS a time that beating up on Fox had some utility because it wasn't well known how slanted their programming is but at this point, people who watch it know what they're getting.

The main reason I don't bother with The Daily Show anymore is because of that exact reason. They're just preaching to the choir, for the most point.

There are a lot of other, left or right leaning opinion broadcast out there that actually bill their programs accordingly and STILL have more relevant facts than either Fox's line-up or The Daily Show.

 

[pink freud]

Wow, Jon Stewart, part-time comedian and professional reporter on a comedy news network, took the time to shit on the softest target in the world of cable television, Fox News. Color me unsurprised.

What people said earlier in this thread is totally true. CNN spouts just as much drivel as Fox does at this point. I'm a left-leaning conservative and both sides disgust me equally: Fox gives conservatism a bad name and mainstream left-wing rhetoric like CNN inspires right-wing hate for things like social programs and legal abortion.

While the right has the market cornered on being old and crotchety, the left has the market cornered on being trendy to a fault, hence the Jon Stewarts of the world. You don't see anybody talking about how liberals want legalized drugs because "people will get them one way or another" yet are in favor of strict gun control because Democrats aren't fun to make fun of.

You realize that Jon Stewart (seems to) takes CNN less seriously than FOX, right?

 

[BuckarooBanzai]

**EDIT: Nevermind. Letting things speak for themselves.