Cynic are no more :(

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  1. DLG

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    I'm not hugely into their current material, so this doesn't make me too sad.

    What does make me sad is this childish bickering. :(
     
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    I've always respected them as fantastic musicians and songwriters, but their music always had this "meh" factor that made me lose interest very fast. Which sucks cause Paul is a badass guitar player... I can't say I'm shocked though. They take a giant break, come back with a decent album that is likely overhyped due to the break, and then churn out average music with a unique twist.
     
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    Gorgoroth.

    After the last album, which just sounds like old Portal stuff, I completely lost interest in this band. I kept hoping they'd re-inject some heavier aspect of their previous music that made me love this band. I got to see them during the Focus tour with CC and again recently - older tracks sounded outstanding and a lot of the newer stuff made me go see if i could get another beer.

    Did Sean wait until Paul was in the air before announcing Cynic was done and blocking Paul from the page?
     
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    asher So Did We

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    For the unenlightened, can someone explain?
     
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    Tymon is one of the previous guitar players for Cynic who quit from what I remember to be less than happy circumstances. Masvidal was in Death at one point and the song is pretty much directed at him.
     
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    Gayest band would be Godseed as Gaahl switched band
     
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    whoops!
     
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    nah

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    asher So Did We

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    Didn't know Tymon's departure wasn't great. Also I haven't ever heard the song, so I guess that's where the relevance is :flame:

    thanks brian.
     
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    Especially with this line:
    'Lies feed your judgement of others, Behold how the blind lead each other'

    Situations like this make me get a little philosophical :lol: about social media. Its great because the bands and music are that much closer and you get it much quicker.

    But this :horsesh: kinda makes me feel like there is just more space for people to air dirty laundry. So much for the new agey peace, love
    and mung beans :shrug:
     
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    I always thought the "you know so much about nothing at all" related to Paul pretty well. Also, when Chuck Schuldiner writes angry lyrics about you, I question the type of person you are.
     
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    Well I always laughed at:
    'So you preach about how I'm supposed to be, yet you don't you know your own
    Sexuality'

    Then last year he came out and I was like :lol: this isn't new. I mean the whole song is pretty much a dig at him.
     
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    And don't forget Robin as well

    -Brian
     
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    Philosopher's lyrics were directed at Paul? I always thought Paul and Sean were committed to Cynic so they couldn't continue on with Death. I didn't know they ended on a bad note with Chuck.
     
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    I have never seen any mention that they left death on a bad note, quite the opposite as I have read that chuck was supportive of cynic.
    I also don't think the song is about him and I don't recall that people used to think it was before paul came out and then it just became something that "fit".

    Let's not forget that chuck went through a lot of band members and he didn't have a reputation of being the easiest person to work with.
     
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    Factually it is the Cynic thing, but on a personal level all biographies point to the lyrics as an explicit attack after their bad relationship. I read one too, supporting that hypothesis.
    Connecting the dots, it is pretty clear...
     
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    They didn't leave Death on a bad note. If they did, doing the DTA tours would have been done in extremely bad taste.

    Chuck was only hard to work with if you didn't realize that it was HIS band.

    Check out more about the song though - it's written for Paul.
     
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    The only one coming off as a d*ick in this is Sean, yet he's the one comparing Cynic to an abusive relationship. This whole thing is just weird, they all seem so chill.
     

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