I think so.
When people copy other people's art it's inspiration. When a machine does it it's theft...
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When people copy other people's art it's inspiration. When a machine does it it's theft...
StevenC
Javier Strat 7 2024
This is actually a really good analogy.
When I ask an AI to draw a house in the style of Studio Ghibli, it throws back a picture of Kiki's house but with extra chimneys, gables and eaves.
If I ask an artist the same task, I get an original place with thought put into the its story.
IDK, not all AI is equal. What was that AI-created youtube video, "spaceship day" or something like that. Definitely "felt" like an AI created it and the quality was not so good. I'm sure we'll get there at some point in time, though.
Idk I am just waiting for the day I can tell my TV I want to watch House but Dr House is George Jefferson.
Grand Moff Tim
Some call me... Tim
I admire Narad's restraint in this thread. I'd have slapped my qualifications down on the table the moment i got a sniff of someone saying I need to educate myself.
narad
Progressive metal and politics
Well I do have sympathy for the career artists who are going to get wiped out over all this. It's just that, being mad doesn't instantly create some ethical high ground, and so I'd rather walk through why this technology is here to stay regardless of how upset a community gets over it. Acceptance is the first step. Then many of us are going to have to wrestle with the implications. Good-but-not-great artists freelancing probably is a 3 year horizon on that career. But I can't imagine my own career really surviving past 10. Good time to be doing something with your hands -- maybe I'll enlist in ESP school
Anyway, for sensible artists, I feel bad. But there's also a whole cluster of artists (and many other at risk industries) who quite vocally looked at coal miners and basically said, fuck 'em (I'm gonna have solar power in my house)! And then looked at truckers facing automation from self driving and said, fuck 'em ("learn to code!"). And to those people, I hope it's a rude awakening.
Not to mention coders are basically next. To quote a tweet by Andej Karpathy, ~"The new hot programming language is english"
Grand Moff Tim
Some call me... Tim
The important question for me, as someone about to wrap up their AS in IT & Cyber Security and attempting to start a new career in IT, is what corner of IT is the most future-proof so I can set my sights in that direction, lol.
TEFL was a dead end career for me so I'm trying to transition, just in time to hear that AI is going to replace everyone and everything, lmao.
TEFL was a dead end career for me so I'm trying to transition, just in time to hear that AI is going to replace everyone and everything, lmao.
narad
Progressive metal and politics
I'm not very knowledgeable in cyber security but at face value I would think that's a good niche to be in since no one would want to deploy AI-generated code, or even patches, in a critical area. If you're back in the US, when we have government code still in fortran, we're not going to be deploying code written even partially by people without some degree of clearance. And that goes for government contractors, too. I mean, you could even imagine an ML Stuxnet type attack where a foreign agency puts a bunch of certain code on to the net, in such a way that if another company scraped it for training data, in a very particular context, the generated code would do not what is described in the comments of the code (from which the model is trying to build a mapping, since it has no compiler/execution itself), but instead does some malicious thing.
So in the same way that text models right now are getting insanely good at generating dialogue, but everyone's scared to deploy them because there's a history of basically every previous big tech deployment winding up spewing racist nazi stuff, some things are going to be mostly doable by AI but will still need human eyes on them in the industry setting simply for accountability.
Can you train an AI with only failures?
On a whim, I had StaryAI generate an image using the prompt: "PhD Level Progressive Rock Band Vector Portrait" and this is what it generated:
LordCashew
Death Punch for Cutie
Second from the left has a half mustache, third guy from the left chewing his own earlobe? Looks like the ultimate YouTuber prog collab to me...
JimF
Contributor
Not to mention David Bowie Father Christmas in the middle!
Ziggy Santa...
Ziggy Santa...
Trying 'photorealistic' give some watercolors left out in the rain look, but I'll try that one again when I have more credits and can do more that 200 iterations.
wheresthefbomb
SS.org Regular
LordCashew
Death Punch for Cutie
SqueakyShoeAI
jaxadam
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I once asked an AI what the meaning of life is, and they replied:
Just have fun with it
narad
Progressive metal and politics
That explains the albums
RevDrucifer
SS.org Regular
It’s been interesting seeing the discussions on this. I’m friends with a LOT of tattoo artists and some love it, some hate it. The ones who have steady/repeat customers don’t give a shit. They’re booked up for over a year with customers who go to them for THEIR specific artwork. The ones who are starting out/not so experienced aren’t thrilled with it because they haven’t made a name for themselves yet and don’t have a steady stream of customers.
I played with this the other night and got some AWESOME images. I’d have no problem using this for album artwork.
But I know when I go to get tattooed, I wouldn’t be putting a piece of AI art on me, I’ll be having my tattoo artist draw it up so I can modify it any way I’d feel needed.
This feels a lot like the same arguments stated when digital art first started popping up. Artists were freaking out about it, calling it cheating and were fearing the end of their careers, Pro Tools had pretty much the same effect and still does, there are still people that believe you can open Pro Tools, press one button and a whole song is done for you and will die on that hill claiming it to be true, despite never opening Pro Tools once in their lives.
I played with this the other night and got some AWESOME images. I’d have no problem using this for album artwork.
But I know when I go to get tattooed, I wouldn’t be putting a piece of AI art on me, I’ll be having my tattoo artist draw it up so I can modify it any way I’d feel needed.
This feels a lot like the same arguments stated when digital art first started popping up. Artists were freaking out about it, calling it cheating and were fearing the end of their careers, Pro Tools had pretty much the same effect and still does, there are still people that believe you can open Pro Tools, press one button and a whole song is done for you and will die on that hill claiming it to be true, despite never opening Pro Tools once in their lives.
