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If a hospital reports an uninsured patient as a Covid death, they are more likely to get reimbursement from the federal govt for the care. As opposed to just writing it off as a loss.

If you think the coronavirus relief isn't rampant with fraud, you aren't looking close enough. Hospitals, doctors, insurance companies, all perpetrate fraud on the American people.

You really need to present some kind of proof when making a claim that fraud, an actual crime, is being committed. Otherwise, you are making defamatory statements, which is also a crime. Freedom of speech does not allow you to falsely state a crime is occurring.
 

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China, whose economy depends on the rest of the world buying their crap? Yeah, destroying their economies and turning everyone against them so they stop buying Chinese goods is a great way for them to get ahead in the world.

China absolutely caused this and should be held responsible. But anyone suggesting they did it on purpose or will benefit from this is a complete moron.

seriously. i'm super interested in knowing what kind of world these conspiracy nuts live in.

definitely not one where you actually have to run a business successfully.

who decides to get up one day and fuck all of their customers. no one does this.
 

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seriously. i'm super interested in knowing what kind of world these conspiracy nuts live in.

definitely not one where you actually have to run a business successfully.

who decides to get up one day and fuck all of their customers. no one does this.

This is a Disney-level understanding of evil in the world / motivations of villains. Like this whole "follow the money" mentality, as if Dr. Fauci's whole goal in life was to amass a pile of cash in a bunker he can swim around in like Scrooge McDuck. Or like we're going to see post-pandemic Fauci driving around in a top-down Bentley with bikini babes.

"But Dr. Fauci, millions of people died!!"

"The game's the game, dawg"
 

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who decides to get up one day and fuck all of their customers. no one does this.

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So what you are really saying is that Jeff Bezos is just trying to make his ex-wife jealous that she divorced him too soon. You heard it here first folks. Just a jealous lover's dispute disguised as profiteering.

/Sarcasm
 

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This is a Disney-level understanding of evil in the world / motivations of villains. Like this whole "follow the money" mentality, as if Dr. Fauci's whole goal in life was to amass a pile of cash in a bunker he can swim around in like Scrooge McDuck. Or like we're going to see post-pandemic Fauci driving around in a top-down Bentley with bikini babes.

"But Dr. Fauci, millions of people died!!"

"The game's the game, dawg"

Are we talking about the same guy (Fauci) who told the American public near the end of January, that they have nothing to worry about?
 
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Are we talking about the same guy (Fauci) who told the American public near the end of January, that they have nothing to worry about?

Let's say it is -- you didn't give any sort of direct quote, and I'm not going to go try to do that work for you, but let's just assume he literally said exactly what you're saying. Certainly a lot of "experts" downplayed and underestimated the virus.

Now we are at a crossroads -- why did the scientist tell us information that wasn't correct?

a.) he made a mistake?

b.) he is spearheading a global conspiracy to infect the world with a dangerous virus, killing millions of people, and grinding the economy to a halt. He played the long game -- studying medicine, becoming established in the field, infiltrating the inner political circle and biding his time. All to either generally sow destruction because he enjoys it, or for some sort of financial kickback. The logic of this financial kickback mechanism is unknown to basically everyone except a larger group of co-conspirators, all who managed to set this up without anyone being the wiser. That is, except for a fringe group of forum guys who have no credentials of independently investigating anything but are simultaneously such super sleuths that they figured the whole scheme out, even without uncovering any actual hard evidence.

On the other hand, have you heard of Occam's razor?
 

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Let's say it is -- you didn't give any sort of direct quote, and I'm not going to go try to do that work for you, but let's just assume he literally said exactly what you're saying.

Now we are at a crossroads -- why did the scientist tell us information that wasn't correct?

a.) he made a mistake?

b.) he is spearheading a global conspiracy to infect the world with a dangerous virus, killing millions of people, and grinding the economy to a halt. He played the long game -- studying medicine, becoming established in the field, infiltrating the inner political circle and biding his time. All to either generally sow destruction because he enjoys it, or for some sort of financial kickback. The logic of this financial kickback mechanism is unknown to basically everyone except a larger group of co-conspirators, all who managed to set this up without anyone being the wiser. That is, except for a fringe group of forum guys who have no credentials of independently investigating anything but are simultaneously such super sleuths that they figured the whole scheme out, even without uncovering any actual hard evidence.

On the other hand, have you heard of Occam's razor?

I just posted the video interview. This is someone who has been around a very long time. This isn’t some “mistake”
 

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Fair enough. I got my dates mixed up.

As of January 21st when that aired, it was the very day after there was the very first single case confirmed case in the US, and under 500 cases worldwide. "We need to take it seriously" and "this is not something the citizens of the united states should be worried about" seemed reasonable at the time, to me anyways, even in hindsight.
 

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Can’t take the truth? That’s ok go ahead and ban me
Fair enough. I got my dates mixed up.

As of January 21st when that aired, it was the very day after there was the very first single case confirmed case in the US, and under 500 cases worldwide. "We need to take it seriously" and "this is not something the citizens of the united states should be worried about" seemed reasonable at the time, to me anyways, even in hindsight.

For a guy who is an expert on infectious diseases and who has been around in 5 administrations. Oh ok.
 

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Can’t take the truth? That’s ok go ahead and ban me

I'm not going to ban you. I just think that someone who joins guitars forums again-and-again just to espouse wacko conspiracy theories probably has some mental issues to deal with. Entirely apart from your actual opinion on the matter, take a hint. Think about whether that's normal behavior for an adult.
 

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I mean the dude with the big conspiracy video wasn't completely wrong. There are definitely people profiting from the pandemic. Trump was awarding massive no-bid contracts to "companies" to build ventilators for many times their price while having zero experience or employees.

Also, I'd be careful throwing around the statement about people fucking over their customers. That's kinda what SSO is all about. Everyone pouring cash into some boutique builder that misha and nolly are raving great things about that disappears with the money.

Apple is constantly fucking over their customers yet people still follow them like a cult.

I'm definitely not saying any of that conspiracy bullshit is even remotely true but there are people and companies constantly trying to fuck over their customers for more profit.
 


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