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I want to think that there probably was no context. Biden just walked up to him and said a bunch of non sequiturs, and the mayor just agreed. Not because Biden is senile (not saying he's not), but because that's how I picture politicians talking to each other on a day-to-day basis. Here you expect a world leader at this level to say something profound, or, at least, motivational, and, instead, you get someone who just doesn't know what to do with his words the moment he's off script.
 

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I want to think that there probably was no context. Biden just walked up to him and said a bunch of non sequiturs, and the mayor just agreed. Not because Biden is senile (not saying he's not), but because that's how I picture politicians talking to each other on a day-to-day basis. Here you expect a world leader at this level to say something profound, or, at least, motivational, and, instead, you get someone who just doesn't know what to do with his words the moment he's off script.

He’s no Salmon Chase, that’s for sure.
 

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See, I thought he said no one DUCKS a Biden in reference to the upcoming UFC PPV Trump backed out of because they wouldn’t sell the promotion to him.

I heard Trump didn't make weight. Very unprofessional.
 

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Every president has said some dumb things...

George W Bush said:

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.​


George HW Bush said:
For seven and a half years I've worked alongside President Reagan. We've had triumphs. Made some mistakes. We've had some sex...uh...setbacks.

Ronald Reagan said:
Well, I learned a lot...I went down to (Latin America) to find out from them and (learn) their views. You'd be surprised. They're all individual countries.

Bill Clinton said:
It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is.

I'm sure you can find at least a dozen really puzzling and hilarious (in hindsight) quotes from GWB. He was a real headcase. And I'm sure there are some from Barack America from when he was president. Er, storybookman, er, Obama, you know, whatever his name was, best friends with the guy who you don't fuck with, er, what was that guy's name...

On one hand, it's fun to point and laugh at Trump being an asshole, if you are a republican, or Biden being a stammering pile of jelly, if you are a democrat. If you are independent, these people should all scare the bejezees out of you, since the guy bragging about how big his doomsday button is, is the guy who has the power to press that button and potentially destroy life on earth. Even something as silly as Biden insisting that a wheelchair-bound senator stand up is frightening, because, well, how well do you think Biden is paying attention to his briefs and whatnot when he can't even formulate a coherent thought some of the time. If he wasn't president, he'd probably be falling for phishing scams on the internet.

Like, imagine for a moment that the MLB decided to have each league nominate one team to go to the World Series, and play three games, with no one keeping score, and then, people would go out and vote for whichever team they think deserves to win, but, instead of counting those votes, the players from the other MLB teams all promise to vote on behalf of their fans, and that was how we determined who would win the pennant. Then, the leagues nominate the Diamondbacks and the Orioles as the two teams. That's pretty much how politics works, except, if a bad team wins the World Series, life goes on; if a bad person becomes president, you could end up with an angry mob breaking into the capitol and murdering police officers in order to change the result, or you could end up with Putin trying to take over the world, or you could end up with the worst public health crises for over a century, or worse.
 

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Every president has said some dumb things...








I'm sure you can find at least a dozen really puzzling and hilarious (in hindsight) quotes from GWB. He was a real headcase. And I'm sure there are some from Barack America from when he was president. Er, storybookman, er, Obama, you know, whatever his name was, best friends with the guy who you don't fuck with, er, what was that guy's name...

On one hand, it's fun to point and laugh at Trump being an asshole, if you are a republican, or Biden being a stammering pile of jelly, if you are a democrat. If you are independent, these people should all scare the bejezees out of you, since the guy bragging about how big his doomsday button is, is the guy who has the power to press that button and potentially destroy life on earth. Even something as silly as Biden insisting that a wheelchair-bound senator stand up is frightening, because, well, how well do you think Biden is paying attention to his briefs and whatnot when he can't even formulate a coherent thought some of the time. If he wasn't president, he'd probably be falling for phishing scams on the internet.

Like, imagine for a moment that the MLB decided to have each league nominate one team to go to the World Series, and play three games, with no one keeping score, and then, people would go out and vote for whichever team they think deserves to win, but, instead of counting those votes, the players from the other MLB teams all promise to vote on behalf of their fans, and that was how we determined who would win the pennant. Then, the leagues nominate the Diamondbacks and the Orioles as the two teams. That's pretty much how politics works, except, if a bad team wins the World Series, life goes on; if a bad person becomes president, you could end up with an angry mob breaking into the capitol and murdering police officers in order to change the result, or you could end up with Putin trying to take over the world, or you could end up with the worst public health crises for over a century, or worse.
As a mostly independent, though Democrat leaning to stop the crazed maniac contingent, allow me to quote an old favorite, Cyclone Temple:
"Sometimes I laugh, HA, laugh to keep from cryin'"

Hell, that should just be the stamp on every political process in America.
 

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Not gonna lie, this was amazing. 3 days!
 

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He does need to go over there and retrieve some documents that’s for sure.
You saw the stories, i take it, that the National Archives are prtty sure Trump still has classified documents in his possession, in other parts of the building than where the raid occurred? :lol:
 

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Are you arguing that virtually every model didn't get the direction of the impact right, even if the initial modeling of the magnitude wasn't right?
No, I am arguing it is not an exact science and pretending it is is bull crap.
It's not like the world is cooling and storms are getting more moderate.
The argument is the amount of warming (they fail to predict) so don't hang your hat on it and as for moderate, i am loving the slower less frequent storms:
  • There is evidence for a slowing of tropical cyclone propagation speeds over the continental U.S. over the past century, but these observed changes have not yet been confidently linked to anthropogenic climate change.
  • There is no strong evidence of century-scale increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, Similarly for Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes (after adjusting for observing capabilities), there is not strong evidence for an increase since the late 1800s in hurricanes, major hurricanes, or the proportion of hurricanes that reach major hurricane intensity.
 

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No, I am arguing it is not an exact science and pretending it is is bull crap.
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No, I am arguing it is not an exact science and pretending it is is bull crap.

The argument is the amount of warming (they fail to predict) so don't hang your hat on it and as for moderate, i am loving the slower less frequent storms:
  • There is evidence for a slowing of tropical cyclone propagation speeds over the continental U.S. over the past century, but these observed changes have not yet been confidently linked to anthropogenic climate change.
  • There is no strong evidence of century-scale increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, Similarly for Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes (after adjusting for observing capabilities), there is not strong evidence for an increase since the late 1800s in hurricanes, major hurricanes, or the proportion of hurricanes that reach major hurricane intensity.
Oh wait, it's not about if warming is occuring, but rather if we can exactly predict how MUCH it's warming. Gotcha. :rolleyes: Again, there is no serious debate that the earth is warming and very, very little peer-reviewed evidence that this is unrelated to CO2 emissions.

Basically what you're saying is akin to just because we can't exactly model how fast a car coming right at us is accelerating, means it's standing still and we're definitely not about to get hit. Sure thing, boss.

We've covered that paper before. The gist is "there isn't an increase in severity or frequency of storms, provided we assume that we were just missing a lot of storms before." That's awfully tenuous, but hey, good on Nature for at least agreeing to run something this shaky, to give other scientists the opportunity to poke holes in it.
 

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We've covered that paper before. The gist is "there isn't an increase in severity or frequency of storms, provided we assume that we were just missing a lot of storms before." That's awfully tenuous, but hey, good on Nature for at least agreeing to run something this shaky, to give other scientists the opportunity to poke holes in it.
Thanks to Nature for printing toilet paper instead of a science paper! There's nothing to poke holes in, it's all holes!
 

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No, I am arguing it is not an exact science and pretending it is is bull crap.

The argument is the amount of warming (they fail to predict) so don't hang your hat on it and as for moderate, i am loving the slower less frequent storms:
  • There is evidence for a slowing of tropical cyclone propagation speeds over the continental U.S. over the past century, but these observed changes have not yet been confidently linked to anthropogenic climate change.
  • There is no strong evidence of century-scale increasing trends in U.S. landfalling hurricanes or major hurricanes, Similarly for Atlantic basin-wide hurricanes (after adjusting for observing capabilities), there is not strong evidence for an increase since the late 1800s in hurricanes, major hurricanes, or the proportion of hurricanes that reach major hurricane intensity.
We've been heading towards a mini Ice Age according to several scientists, it's definitely not new news. I wonder what kind of instability that causes with the climate beforehand? No one's experienced it so they speculate that it creates random events.
 


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