Chapman Guitars, What's the big drama all about.

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  1. dr_game0ver

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    If you don't know about it, ho boy have you missed something. There is a video on YT " the downfall of channel awesome". It involved a bit more that just drama. CA is a good representation of "when internet drama, ego and money goes too far"
    My comment has to be taken as a joke, nothing more.

    About Andertons, Lee seems to have distence himself with Rob, who barely appear in the videos.
    If you want some good old cringe, go watch the 80' Charvel parodie thing.
     
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    Tisca Big-tube snob

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    Rob also lied about what happened and everytime RCG commented with the truth the comments were deleted. Chappers doesn't really have any credible evidence or arguments against his accusers.

    Let's not forget Rob's biggest crime; having dreads as a white middle aged man.
     
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    I have a white middle, but am not yet an aged man. Dreads ok?
    :nlb:
     
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    Short of being Rastafarian, in my opinion, it's never okay.
     
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    Not only that, but the Internet has become such a poison to anyone with any slight hint of popularity or notoriety or whatever - it's all drama and going after people to cut them down... Some lowlife will waste this precious Earth's oxygen spending countless hours tracking down that you pushed the redhead kid in the mud in second grade because that'll make the headlines and people will shout death threats at you.

    Fuck offff, can we all just enjoy the fucking content and stop trying to guillotine everybody, it's 2020 not the 1800s.
     
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    gunch Riff Chugman

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    I don’t want to be smug but this guy always had a greasy smarmlord vibe to me and his bands are named after sounds a broken washer makes
     
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    Is the Chapman CS the one that was only supposed to put out 10 guitars per year?

    That's some pretty extreme lack of demand given his status...
     
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    I don't disagree with the sentiment, but in Rob's case, he's quite obviously a prick. Seems like this was a long time coming. And to be fair, I really enjoy the Anderton's youtube channel (sans Rob), and I never got the same feeling about Lee or Pete, who seem like nice people. I don't care for the Anderton's/Chapman partnership, but I get it.
     
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    KnightBrolaire Thy Fart is Murder

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    yup, he wanted to sell 3500 £ guitars but wouldn't say who was building them, which rankled most people from whst I've seen. Pretty sure the overlap of people that both liked his guitars and had those kinds of funds were turned off by not knowing who was building them.
    Plus that kind of money would get you a legit custom from proven builders like Daemoness/Carillion/Waghorn
     
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    Thaeon Cosmic Question Asker

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    Dude, that's around $4500 USD. That's Oni territory. I know where I'd be putting my money.
     
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    You mean like the "British luthier" that built the protos and the commemorative artist guitars that was Jaden Rose yet was all but ommitted from the picture the first time and then completely obliterated from any exposure when things went south? It's really not a problem of credibility of the luthier itself, but rather a mix of making it fully "Chapman only" and preventing people from skipping the middleman and going to the luthiers themselves, I'm afraid.

    In this industry, people having some rather questionable attitudes and decisions is just the tip of the iceberg, to be honest.
     
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    Maybe the cunt is going to build these £3,500 guitars himself? You know, the guy who regularly demonstrates he doesn't know what "coil tap" or "baritone" mean.

    Wasn't it on this forum that there was some kerfuffle caused by him claiming his guitars came with Hipshot bridges when they were clearly chinese knock-offs? Pretty sure someone here contacted Hipshot over it. Wonder if those people who bought them ever got a part-refund?

    I don't mind Lee Anderton or Bea at all, I hope they're just associating with him for the exposure to his audience at this point.
     
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    He's like...the only person around that actually knows what a baritone means though.
    crying emoji
     
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    I meant for me but I forgot everything has to be a competition on the internet and opinions are stupid lmao
     
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    "The king of Internet sleaze." Hyyyyypeerrrrbolleeeee. Lol. Dude, there are lots of people on YouTube that are sleazier than this ballpark frank imbecile.
     
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    Yeah... tell that to the celts, mate.
     
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    exactly my point. If he was targeting metalheads, then he failed as there a ton of reputable metal centric builders in that price range.
    If he was targeting blues lawyers then he failed, since you can get a 10 top PRS, a 509 or any number of nice gibson/fender clones from proven shops at that price point. From a marketing perspective it was basically doomed from the start by them not mentioning the ghostbuilder and the very stiff competition at that price point.
     
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    The outcome implies that his market research was effectively ego.
     
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    Yeah. Especially considering he's a relatively new name in the market. You'd think that by letting the public know who was ghost building for him, he'd have drawn some people in. Like Friedman being perfectly open about Grover doing his builds. Dunable is also open about Grover doing some of the necks of his guitars. People don't hold that against those builders. They actually feel more confident about investing the money knowing who's hands did the work.
     
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    I was a way bigger fan of the braids.
     
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