Carillion Nexus - Microtonal Baritone Warrior/Death Kelly

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  1. Winspear

    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    I'll keep it as brief as possible - Chris is my favourite builder and I can't say much about the quality other than it is absolutely flawless and plays like butter! After some convincing he designed this shape for me and fretted it with too many frets in all the wrong places. A real dream come true for me and a culmination of many years learning and experimentation.

    - Nexus 7 baritone.
    - Reaver headstock.
    - Set neck construction.
    - 28.75" scale length - 31 microtonal frets (in the space of 24)
    - SERIAL #180.
    - Burl English Sycamore top.
    - 5,300 year old Bog Oak body.
    - 5 piece Ebony / Purpleheart laminate neck.
    - Burl Sycamore head veneers (front and back).
    - Birdseye Maple fingerboard, bound in Ebony.
    - Hipshot locking tuners.
    - Graphtech Black Tusq nut.
    - Jescar Stainless Steel frets.
    - Luminlay side dots.
    -BKP Painkiller / Supermassive P90 pull split bridge + hum cancelling middle pos
    - Hipshot Tone-A-Matic bridge.
    - Dunlop Duo strap locks.
    - Polyester lacquered / Vortex purple.

    -Monstrously clear tone with the P90 neck delivering all the punch you could ever want
    -This design is exceptionally comfortable in both positions. Balances perfectly which I was not expecting! Relatively lightweight all things considered. Lovely thin 35mm(?) body
    -Favouring TOM bridges these days (enough to sway me from my usual multiscale preference) with a slight height/neck angle - This bridge is extremely comfortable and has a ton of intonation range. Hadn't tried it before - couldn't be happier with the choice. Excellent bridge

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    The microtonal frets! Brief explanation
    This is not a quartertone guitar for Eastern music which is what many people assume microtonal to mean. Quartertone is a pretty awkward system for the most part and is only so popular because it allows you to keep what you already know exactly the same. Here, all frets aside from the octaves are moved at least slightly from their normal positions - standard function is however retained and tuning resonance improved. It could be thought of as 'True Temperament Extreme, Extended Edition'. It is based on a historic tuning called Meantone, extended out to be more flexible with extra notes (Meantone was abandoned due to lack of flexibility and we moved toward 12 equal - more flexible but worse intonated).
    A simplified explanation for this guitar may be to imagine a piano where the black keys are split in half to make Ab and G# etc. different notes. Such pianos did exist!
    Some information videos and audio example;


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    String tuning - a bizarre one I've been in love with for a year. It's 5ths but the top two strings are tuned down an octave to control the extreme range of 5ths and create some fantastic condensed voicing opportunities. I got the idea from Pat Metheny and Frank Gambale who occasionally do something similar but in 4ths. The overall range is the same as a typical baritone 7.
    F1 .076
    C2 .052
    G2 .034
    D3 .022
    A3 .013
    E3 .020
    B3 .0115
    ~17.5-15lbs

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    shupe13 SS.org Regular

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    That's badass.
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    Wow, so that's yours! That's incredible -- I had actually be probing Tom about a warrior 7 a few years ago, but life changes and stuff.

    Yea, I'm sure playing that sort of thing is well beyond me but I'm glad someone is out there still placing high-spec crazy orders. And props on the TOM. It's where we all start, and where we all end up.
     
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    @Winspear you are from this moment on obliged to make a video with this guitar in a melodic metal style, a video only with chugging is not allowed, you must show the use of such exquisite and exotic fret division. You have no excuses, DO IT... :D

    Now seriously, the guitar is pretty and looks to be very well built. May she serves you well.
     
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    steinmetzify CHUG & SLUDGE

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    Excuse my language please.

    FUCKING. SICK.
     
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    ummm.... yes! :agreed:
     
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    No words. This is absolutely stunning. Congratulations my friend.
     
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    Ha! I saw that, but didn’t realize it was microtonal. Very cool. You MUST demo it for us!
     
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    erdiablo666 I'm from Canada...and they think I'm slow...eh

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    I wanted to hate this...but I can't. It's very hot and I love it. Enjoy for many many years my good sir.
     
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    manu80 Jackson for life !

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    I FUCKING agree :)
     
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    Now that is true definition of a custom guitar! She turned out amazing! Happy NGD!!!
     
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    Really interesting build, and learnt something on Microtonal so thanks for the explanation.

    Warrior esque vibe isn't usually my thing but that looks badass. Chris is such a talented builder his guitars are just bonkers good. HNGD
     
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    StevenC SS.org Regular

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    Saw that yesterday on Facebook and have been excitedly waiting for your post explaining it! Super cool guitar, and that's before even getting to the neck or tuning.

    Was actually thinking about a guitar in this tuning and similar scale, but with a high E4 and G4 (7 string NST essentially) but probably can't get the G conveniently without multiscale.

    HNGD!
     
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    This is the guitar of my dreams !
    Breathaking really !
    congrats ! And yes you owe us a video !
     
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    Vyn Not a Sparkly Vampire

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    Have not seen a bad one of these yet. Really want one of the V's, same shape and headstock that Brian Kingsland has, they are gorgeous!

    HNGD!
     
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    Big congrats man, this instrument is gorgeous ! we definively need a demo ! :)
    I'm curious (in a good way) about it
    The frets placement looks like those that have the quarter tone for arabic/orientals scales
    instead of EDO (I'm not a specialist, shame on me)
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    *this* is what a custom build means.

    That looks awesome. I'd love to hear it.
     
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    jephjacques BUTTS LOL

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    That thing is weird as hell and I love it. GOOD JOB
     
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    Holy shit this is sick, and it makes me want to see more extreme shapes from Carillion (also sound demos, that tuning seems really interesting).
     
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    Winspear Tom Winspear

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    Thanks, dudes!
    For sure - I am super busy at the moment but I intend to record a demo+explanation video when I have a chance. Aside from that I do already have 20 minutes of progdeath written for this instrument and drums are done, so it will be heard in a full context asap! It is very much a goal of mine to bring microtonality in metal more exposure.

    I'm so stoked on the new shape from Chris, the singlecut tweak was a surprise I really dig as originally it was going to be more of a straight up Warrior.

    Nice! Yeah I wouldn't want F and G on a straight board - 27-25 is probably what I'd suggest for that (longer than 27 if you dig wider fans).


    It is actually most simply viewed as a subset of 31 EDO (thought it's not quite), or a 'skewed' 19EDO. I removed the weirder frets of 31 for practicality and to keep the guitar largely normal sounding haha. The notes on it can mostly be named with just naturals, flats, and sharps - not quartertones. But for sure there are some notes in there that are roughly quartertones from other notes. 31EDO, alongside 19EDO, are kind of the most 'normal' microtonal tunings and direct expansions of typical western theory method
     
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