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Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by sleewell, Feb 3, 2021.
Of course. Some people are pretty loony though.
Meh. Rob has managed to not be an ass about it, if in fact he is a racist.
That's about all you can ask of a person
That's not the music's fault. That's the individual
I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
I'm just saying in general. He'll even the musicians who make the songs turn out to be loons.
I guess the moral of the story is everyone is bat shit insane
I have to be honest, the MM stuff just makes his music more real in a sense. The guy's not larping when it comes to being a weirdo. Like when I was younger and thought Varg was this scary motherfucker, then he got out of prison and was just a chubby farmer who posts on /pol/. Ruined everything.
The concept of being a rockstar now is to basically be a church choir boy posting boring playthrough videos on instagram. And people wonder why it's not a dominant genre anymore.
The point is, shitty people are interesting.
Since everyone has their one shit days, some more than others (either in days' number or the shit amount), everyone is interesting to some degree...
I feel like this comparison is apples and oranges. Robb Flynn is a primadonna and was too controlling with his band. He isn't a racist insurrectionist, sexual abuser, rapist, or pedophile like some of the other examples.
On topic, I found out the other day that Aeriel Pink went to the US capitol on Jan. 6, but claims he wasn't part of the mob storming the capitol and was there to show support to the former president. It doesn't make him human garbage but if he believes the lies that Trump was selling since losing the election then it does make it hard for me to like his music, even if I ignore the misogynist comments he's made in the past.
Similarly, I can't listen to All That Remains anymore after finding out how much of a tool Phil Labonte is. All I can think about is how cringey he is in a "#youmad" muscle shirt with a tacticool rifle on it.
Maybe there is a relationship between rock music's waning popularity and its lack of subversiveness. Maybe it needs fewer choir boys. BUT I don't really think that shit like Manson burnishing his 20-year-long Act 2 of Musician Biopic is really that secret sauce to get things back on track.
Good point. I'm surprised you didn't mention Jon Shaffer of Iced Earth when he was part of the Capitol storming. There is only one Iced Earth song I like called Brothers, because my best friend in Castlegar has become a brother to me and it's our jam. The rest of that album is okay too. But like I said, I'll still listen to good music if I like it, regardless of what the musicians have done.
I'm a diehard MM fanboi, but an abusive relationship he had at the height of his drug problems isn't exactly making rock dangerous. He lived a life of unmoderated excess and he's paying for it
I guess for me it depends on what/why is the artist being "judged".
Kanye West being a narcissistic egomaniac lunatic? fine, His music is awesome enough that I don't care that he's that.
Ian Watkins from Lostprophets sexually assaulting children? fuck that noise I hope he rots in jail forever. I can't even think about listening to lostprophets without getting nauseous.
I'm usually fine up to a certain point. I can't listen to certain Pantera songs anymore the same way I used to, because the meaning has changed knowing what I know now about Phil. I can still listen to Cemetary Gates no problem, but there's other stuff where it's just clear what part of his soul the lyrics were coming from and it ain't a good part, and I can't listen to it.
Let's spice it up a bit.
Some people on this forum are terrible people and are probably some of your favs. Let that sink in
Personally, when I want to subvert the mainstream and offend people, I play easy-listening muzak. Really quiet, too.
I am being sincere when I ask...but what was racist in Pantera’s music? I know that a few years back Phil threw up a nazi salute at dimebash but now it seems there is revisiting on racism in the earlier songs. I’ll admit I dont really follow lyrics closely and I’m also not exactly the biggest Pantera fan but I dont know where the racism is in their songs
I think the forum software itself knows... it keeps telling me something about my IP being suspicious.
SAME! I keep getting 401 blocked
Yes, easily. If I enjoy it, I enjoy it.
Manson. Man, son. Dude is living out the character he created and then some.