I'm looking for a decent, budget-friendly modeling/multi-effect pedal. Listening to demos w/ headphones/earbuds don't reveal a whole lot of difference. Likewise, the editing on the device does seem that different, but actually trying to edit settings vs watching somebody do it often revels "quirks" that weren't obvious. Basic features I'm looking for: Ideally ~$500 USD. I can do $750, but I don't want to go too far past that. Updated macOS software. I've got a Mustang Mini and a DigiTech pedal that died via software long before the hardware was obsolete. This unfortunately eliminates Line 6. They had a decade to migrate to 64-bits, still wrote new 32-bit software and they still chuffed the release of Catalina. They're in a similar boat now. The last "We're still working on it" news release regarding macOS 11 was back in September. I'm also looking at adding piezos to a guitar (another factor in the budget), so I'd love stereo/2-channel input. I have a Roland JC-40 (Stereo, 2x10 Combo), so the ability to do the 4CM is another plus. What I've looked at so far: I'm I'd love an FM3, but that's more than I'd like to spend right now. The older Fractal stuff seems good, and as good as Fractal tends to be, the older (AX8, FM8, etc.) editing software hasn't been updated. The videos for the Hotone Ampero sound OK. It's in the $350-$400 range and the software doesn't crash, but I can't get past the startup screen without the hardware. It has an expression pedal. Also, there's only one input. There's the TC Electronic Plethora X5 (basically 5 TonePrint Pedals in one enclosure): It can do stereo in. It can do 4CM. It's in the $450-$500 range, but it doesn't have an expression pedal. The software has been recently updated. I'm able to test the software more, but I can't edit any TonePrints without the hardware. I'm concerned about only having the ability to adjust parameters on TonePrints vs having actually modeled effects. The Boss GT1000 & GT1000CORE are interesting. They're in the $750-$800 range. The software has an offline mode (so you can edit settings w/o the device). Both can do 4CM. The CORE is about $50 cheaper, but you lose 4 stomp buttons and the expression pedal, but you gain stereo input. That said, messing with the software, I can't find a way to send the channels to separate chains. The software has signal splitters, but I can't find a way to split the inputs The regular GT1000 gains 4 stompbox buttons and an expression pedal, but loses the stereo input. The main instructions seems to imply that you could use the effects loop returns, but doesn't really say how, and I could not find a way in the editor to route the two returns. I'm leaning towards the TC Electronic Plethora + an Expression Pedal, but the Boss GT1000s have better software. Unfortunately I'm not being a way to send L/R, Mag/Piezo to two different signal chains. If I can confirm that, they might be worth the extra $250-$300USD. What brands/products (Moore GE?) am I overlooking? Who has real experience with these lower end EDIT: After looking at the Helixes again, I thought of another possibility: An interface and performance software like MainStage?