Boss HM2/Clone Chainsaw Megathread

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  1. Asphyxia

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    Didn't work for me. I am running a merciless distortion(HM2 clone)> Metalzone> power amp.
    You can probably get it to work. The Eyemaster is what it is. Not flexible enough for me to work in that situation. I was basically just fighting the eyemaster to take down some frequencies.
    Very good for what it is though. A dimed HM2.
     
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    When i was young and almost penniless, i used to regularly go into a guitar shop just to stare at that pedal in a glass cabinet. I didn't even know what it sounded like but wanted it so badly for about a year.
     
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    I do this with my practice rig. Instant At The Gates/early In Flames. There’s pictures of it in the thread but photobucket blurred them out. As was already mentioned an Eyemaster is probably not ideal for being boosted by an MT-2. There’s no eq with the Eyemaster and you’re going to want to play with the mid knob once you introduce the MT-2 to your chain. I go guitar->MT-2->HM-2->low gain input Bandit distortion channel->2x12. It sounds pretty evil, maybe pickup a used HM300 if you already have an MT-2 to try the combo out with.
     
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    I have to run the merciless(HM2) first. If I run it after the MT-2 it compresses it so much I can't get it to sound right. The combo of the two together is some death metal heaven for a bedroom player. I actually got the idea from your posts. So thanks for giving me the idea.
     
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    I've got a Boss SD-1 and I actually use the Eyemaster to boost it and then my amp. For what it's worth, I never turn the gain up at all on the Eyemaster. I've already got instant chainsaw with the level all the way up. I tried using the SD-1 to boost the Eyemaster, but it didn't work as good as it does now.
     
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    here's a quick shitty video with my f30:
     
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    Patiently waiting on mine to come in, bought the weeping chaos too which I guess is the hold up on my order.
     
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    I actually just picked one of these up recently. It's my first try of an HM-2 clone, and I love the the miniature size. Despite the tiny form factor, it still feels very high quality.

    It definitely does the chainsaw thing, and the lowered noise floor is really impressive vs. the original HM-2s. If you want a high quality clone of the original, this is your jam.

    However, I'm not sure how badly I need this tone for what I play for now, and how much I want it on my pedalboard permanently. I'll experiment with it for a little while longer and discover how badly I want to play the "original" Gothenburg sound with those riffs. :D

    FWIW, there is a plugin version of the HM-2 that you can buy on BF sale right now for $10:
    https://www.audiority.com/shop/heavy-pedal/



    Not sure if it counts for your question as it's not a real pedal, but for $10 you can't really complain for how close it gets. So if all things are equal, this is now your cheapest HM-2 variant. :)
    You can also pick it up in the whole pack of distortion pedals they make for less than $40 right now. The fuzzes are actually better than I would have expected for plugins.
     
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  10. Bearitone

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    What is the name of that HM-2 style boost pedal that Airis used to make? Not the Murderous distortion. I could have sworn they made one with no gain. Just a boost with a chainsaw EQ
     
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    @Backsnack

    Not claiming “I know how they did it” or anything like that but if you’re experimenting with it trying to get the old Gothenburg sound I can steer you in the right direction. If you can post your amp and cab I can probably help you get even closer. I’ve posted my exact settings in this thread but if you’re using different gear (assuming you are) I’ll add my procedure for how I got there. Hopefully it’s helpful, I spent a lot of time figuring out how to get it.
    I start by scooping the mids on my amp almost as far as the knob allows, I turn the knob to zero and turn it back up until I can hear the mids just start to be present again. You should be going through your amp’s distortion channel but set the distortion low, so that it’s getting fat but just breaking up. I go through the low gain input because I’m stacking pedals, using hot pickups and don’t want to drive the front end to the point of losing all clarity or adding noise. The HM-2 alone didn’t do it, I boost it with an MT-2. The HM-2 adds mids back in but don’t max out the mid/high knob. Turn the level above unity gain and the distortion knob off. Then turn that mid/high knob up until the pedal starts to chainsaw and stop. Now with the distortion knob do the same thing, bring it up right to where you hear it adding the slightest amount of distortion and stop. To set up the MT-2 set everything to 12 o’clock except the distortion knob, turn that off. Now bring the level up to the point it’s driving the HM-2, around 1-3 o’clock. The eq on the MT-2 should be set to work with whatever cab/speakers you’re using. I’m using an open back with a CV-75 and a Governor, similar to a nice’d out V30 and a throatier V30 if you’re not familiar with those. Start with the low/high pot, add lows until the sound has some balls. It won’t take a lot since the HM-2 has a bump in the lows and the frequency the MT-2 affects isn’t all that desirable IMO. Basically you’re just making that bump wider. Roll back the highs until you find a nice balance between too scratchy and too dull, you’re probably going to end up pretty low on the knob. I use the mid control on the MT-2 to pull out more low mids, the frequency portion of the pot is set low and the level portion of the pot is down to the point it starts getting hollow. If you’re using G12t’s for example your mid settings are going to be different. Last thing is to use the distortion knob on the MT-2 to add in the distortion that’s missing. It doesn’t take much but most of the pedal distortion is coming from the Metal Zone. You can add a little noise gate if needed. At low volume I don’t even use one since this isn’t an “all the gain” situation, it’s actually not out of control. You may want to go back and play with the HM-2 mid/high knob a bit after the MT-2 is set as the added gain can make the previous setting too high.
     
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    I’d like to know too, I wasn’t aware they made one, just the Merciless which I thought was a standard HM-2 clone. I’ve got a LWA Bump that’s just the LHW eq on a clean blend knob. Reputations aside, I really like that pedal.
     
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    I've been tempted to buy some of LWA's stuff but he's an insufferable cunt. His bad reputation is pretty well deserved from what I've seen.
     
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    It’s true, and his build quality is very lacking. There’s a reason people bring multiples of his pedal on tour and it’s not because they wanna flex.
     
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    New HM-2 related vid.
     
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    Speaking of LWA, what other small pedal builders do you guys know of?
     
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    dunwich, abominable, klirrton, earthbound.
     
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    jesus there are so many. Especially if you’re talking about hm2 builders. The most recommended I would say at least for build quality is Abominable electronics. His work is always super solid and he uses printed circuit boards that designs instead of just hastily soldering cheap components together. Overall though for any hm2 it’s all about what flavor you want. I would say the Wurm from KMA was the most was the most death metal sounding while all of Abominable pedals are geared towards hardcore and other genres.
     
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    Yeah I'd like to stay away from the HC tones, wasn't crazy about the Bullet Belt I got either but to each his own. All of Abominables stuff is sold out so that's a good sign right? And the Grindstein looks insane, I wonder how it fares compared to something similarly priced like the Ceres
     
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