Ok . let me get a few things out of the way first . - I've started listening to these guys a month ago, i'm very late to the party . - Machine was the song to get me into the band by accident, I LOVE it - Divergency is my favourite song (The main riff grooves SO HARD) - Omniscient is an awesome interlude - Cameron Grays work goes SO WELL with these guys - Destroy Erase Improve is my favourite album - Ummm Throw me in the jungle is awesome to me - I've had a few beers Just inputting an outsiders thoughts into the thread I do like The Discovery the most, mainly because of the interludes .. they are killer Anyways i'm struggling to understand the hate, do understand a bit of it Do people really need to hear the Malmsteen like solos to make it that much better? (This is coming from the biggest shred fiend you would meet) Regardless what people have said - Give me 0000---00---000--00-000--0000 all day long as there's something interesting going on under it (which happens in most cases?) Just too much negativity here (Your opinion is invalid, mine is correct ), i'm buying the new album as soon as it drops!