BluGuitar Amp 1 Iridium "metal edition" is coming

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  1. lewis

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    right new issue
    connected them up 4 cable method.

    What output do I use now? Rec Out on the Amp1? (still doesn't have IR applied) or Output 2 on the HX? (seems weird like way too loud and not working correctly?)
     
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    4CM usually means that you go from the [insert modeler here] back to the power amp and then to the cab. If you are using the HX for IRs though you are essentially bypassing the power-amp and doing something like 3-cable method. If going out from the HX is too loud, check the level both in the IR block (mine usually defaults at -18db) and the Output block. FRFRs are supposed to be able to handle line level, which is the most powerful output the HX can be configured to (instead of instrument-level which is the other choice).
     
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    Interesting find!

    And glad you figured out the IR problem. It’s really dumb that the Helix allows incompatible IRs to be loaded at all.
     
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    You'd connect the recording output of the Amp1 into your your FRFR without the cab sim applied. DON'T CONNECT THE REGULAR SPEAKER OUTPUTS TO THE FRFR WITHOUT A LOAD BOX!

    The recording out from the Amp1 should combine the sound of the amp with whatever you have programmed into your HX for drives, eq, IR, etc.

    Just to make sure you have it all hooked up right, see this tutorial. He also goes over some necessary adjustments for loop level return and changing the master volume to effecting only the XLR output.

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    Let us know how it works for you. I'm interested in using it in a similar setup before I'm able to use the Amp1 with a cab. (Just using the recording outs into my interface and my desktop monitors.)
     
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    Thanks dude.
    I shall watch the vid and make sure im all hookes up properly.
     
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    Not sure if I quoted this already, but great sound and nice riffs!

    Did you use the recording out from the Amp1?
     
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    Yes I did... recording out sounded better (to my ears) than the cab out. Thanks.
     
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    Sounds like there’s hope for using the recording out without a speaker!
     
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    Oh and regarding the Andertons video earlier, it seems I didn't notice it was a "demo" and not a "review." Either that or they re-titled the video.

    Even still, it's a terrible and biased representation of both of the pedal amps.
     
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    Here's my demo. I'm going a written review on it as well, and will get that up in the review section once done:
     
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    Youre having the same sound im getting.
    Like static fizz on the gain/distortion.

    3rd party IRs make a huge difference but its still there and you cant get rid.

    Reminds me of what i disliked about the Lace Deathbar pickup.

    Not sure what to do really. Demos all made this sound like it was super twangy/stringy and tight.

    Mine sounds static'y and full of fizz.
    Im going keep trying with it but realistically i probably would have gotten better results from a Line 6 HX Stomp + Seymour Duncan Powerstage.
     
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    Lewis, after having done this demo I found that the tone was better when I reduced the Gain (4-5 at most) and introduced an OD pedal to push it harder. That reduced the fuzziness. I think it's a matter of going too high on the Gain with humbuckers.
     
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    FWIW I guess I'm not bothered with or I'm not hearing that in your review video. (Which is a nice thorough video btw, and I'm jealous of the Satriani guitar!)

    Are both of you experiencing the static fizz with the recording outs and the speaker cabinet outs?

    Your reviews nicely demonstrates the incredible range of the Classic channel. That one can do just about everything for distorted tones.

    Side note @Se7enHeaven : I noticed your review video is set to age restricted and thought that was odd.
     
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    I dont have a cab so i cant really do extensive testing on speaker out front.

    But going 4 cable method, with built in analog sim disabled, and using a custom IR going into my Headrush FRFR via recording out = static/fizz type gain
     
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    You don't get as much 'fuzz' with the speaker out (as opposed to rec out), although I don't like the sound as much (a touch more boxy, although fatter). Currently I'm liking the Gain at only 3 with The Blessed Mother overdrive adding in the punch. It's a more raw sound.
     
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    Im starting to think there is differences per unit.
    Mine has never sounded twangy/stringy like im hearing in other vids.

    Like maybe each Iridium sounds slightly differently or something?

    Also for 4cm and using an IR, should i have series or parallel efx loop
     
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    Or different pickups have a big effect on how the unit responds tonally?
     
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    using Fishman moderns primarily
     
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    Looks like there's a chance I can get into NAMM this year. If I can, I'm gonna go try one of these out in person ...


    ... in a ridiculously noisy venue which is probably a terrible place to actually demo a piece of gear. :rofl:
     
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    Here's another video with Thomas Blug and the two different Amp1 models. Lots of chatting around the playing and demoing, some of it is interesting.

    They start with demoing the Amp1 Mercury edition. Skip to 19:00 to hear the Iridium.

     
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