BKP Aftermath Experiencionados? RGD7421 related

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  1. ICSvortex

    ICSvortex 0-0-0-1

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    Sooo i have a little question that has been bothering me for quite some time now...

    I recently aquired an Ibanez RGD7421 that the pre-owner installed a BKP Aftermath in the bridge and a X2n-7 in the neck (idk why you would put a X2n in the neck but whatever).

    When i got the guitar i swapped the X2n out for an Air norton i had around, and the plan is to put a aftermath neck in the guitars ultimately (have to order that first tho).

    NOW:
    Whenever i play something on the bridge pickup it is horrendeusly bright, like horribly bright, it almost sounds like its coil split (but no hum, so i dont think its split). So naturally i checked the wiring and i realize that the 3-way toggle had way too many connections (i saw that when i swapped the neck PU but didnt think much of it).

    To not let this post be too long, i would like to know if the aftermath is just THAT bright and if anyone has a wiring diagram for the rdg7421?

    Thanks in advance :D
     
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    chopeth SS.org Regular

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    wtf is experiencionados? new word you came up with?
     
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    ICSvortex 0-0-0-1

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    Yes its a made up, fancy word for people who have experience with something :D
    Just because the title would be too long for "People who have experience with BKP aftermaths, RDG7421 related"
     
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    Is it really a 3way toggle?

    Way too many connections = how many, anyway?
     
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    The aftermath is a very bright pickup with a hi-mid spike. Pair that in a bright piece of basswood with a 26.5” and it may get too much. It’s predominately used for clarity when downtuning and scratchy djent tones.
     
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    Yes it's a 3 way toggle.

    and its has 12 connectors, whicht seems a liiiiiiittle overkill^^
    it's this switch btw
    Link
     
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    ICSvortex 0-0-0-1

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    huh, didnt know that.
    i always thought it was a quite balanced pickup from the graphic on the BKP website, eventhough i know you cant really depend on that.
     
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    Graphics are pretty much meaningless unless it’s got mids really high or low. You can get wildly different results depending on the guitar used. BKPs are mostly voiced for a les Paul which is why they can sound too bright in other guitars.

    The aftermath was first marketed as a balanced pickup and a lot of people found out the hard way when they couldn’t dial out the mid spike and they became known as clanky sounding.
     
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    "Clanky", thats the perfect word to describe what it sounds like! Thank you :D
    But a wiring schematic would still be nice, just to be sure that i didnt mess it up tho...
     
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    Aftermaths are just bright.
     
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    wow. thank you. i would still appreciate if someone would help me out. with a RGD7421 schematic because. i cant figure that switch out.
     
  12. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire chasing the tone dragon

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    aftermath is bright and clanky, almost metallic in the mids. quite possibly the worst choice besides a painkiller in an already bright guitar. both work far better in a darker sounding guitar.
     
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    well, it seems like i need to put different pickups in there as it seems...
    But almost all of my 7 string guitars have basswood bodies and are kinda bright :/ so a simple swap with another guitars isnt possible...

    but whatever, what would be a good choice of dark sounding pickups? so i need pretty much the exact opposite of the aftermath becuase the guitar is very bright, even acoustically.
     
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    oh and i'll record and post some soundclips, so you can hear the true abomination. And maybe you'll hear something else thats wrong.
     
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    KnightBrolaire chasing the tone dragon

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    easiest path is putting a different value tone capacitor in first. that will tame the brightness a decent bit. same with using a multiband eq before your signal hits the amp.
     
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    well, since i dont have a tone pot OR cap in the guitar, that could be an easy fix...
    oh and i dont use analog gear anymore, only digital modelers so a parametric EQ could surely be an option, even if i'd rather fix the guitar instead of the patches i'm using...

    did you have a specific capacitor in mind? and would i need a tone pot or could i just try it with a pot and then use a fixed value resistor so i dont have to drill a 2nd hole for a control i'll never use?
     
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    you can put a cap on the volume pot . try a.047 uf cap to start.
     
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    EQ is your friend. I bump 130 and cut at 7300 hz. I also run my Aftermaths a little lower than other pickups. I think they sound best in mahogany.
     
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    ICSvortex 0-0-0-1

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    okay thanks!
    and i guess the more i increase the value, the fewer high-end i get?
    I dont get audio-electronics, eventhough i am an electrial engineer^^
     
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    well yeah but i really want to use the guitar live aswell and creating the whole setlist worth of patches with a para-eq in front just for this guitar seems a little dumb to me... but for home use i'll try those settings!
     

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